Goodbye to the lots of you come thursday

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

If you are going to complain about people having egos because they post they're feelings about the game .... don't post, you're doing it too.

Was an observation. Not a complaint.

[viion]

I don't think trolls will be gone because if anyone says anything negative they're instantly labelled as a troll and thus when SE does something someone else doesn't like and is paying for the change they don't like as well? I think it may even be worse lol.

[TheVedis]

At this point, it can't get much worse in terms of population (I don't think), they figure the active 10,000-15,000 players left will probably pay if they've stuck it out this long.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...x=2j347wa4kvqu

From all the stats the JP have accumulated, it's been pretty steady between 10 and 15k, so I assume it'll head towards the 10k mark come billing time. Least it's 100,000$ in SE's pocket to help maintain servers and what not. It's good and bad that only active players will be able to post, cause most active players left really don't see too much wrong with the game and offer some ridiculous suggestions at times. On the other hand, some less active players bash bash bash to the point where they just shouldn't play.

Don't think I'll pay for the first couple months, I'll see how things progress reading through the forum notes and what not. If things get significantly better, I'll still have quite a few months to experience the new things going on.

again with that 10k number

if you really paid attention, thats 10k total on at peak hours, peak hours =/= total population


it was forum trolls who originaly made that post and chart you are refering to

[Monty]

You realize those are from the JP players who take a look across days right and total the numbers? You really do have the IQ of a rock don't you? You really can't accept that this game probably has 10-20,000 players left can you?

Even if it is peak times, most servers barely hit 1,000, so at peak times across all servers, you can't even hit 18,000 players! So let's go with middle ground and say 600 players across 18 servers on average, that's 10,800 players. I really doubt on slow times you can expect that number to double or have that many different people logging on.

[Biggs]

something tells me your one of those people who will never be happy, and thats ok
this game is optional to play for a reason, no one is forcing you

I won't ever be happy because I don't want to pay a monthly fee for an MMO that I could do everything in from scratch in about a month? The total lack of content at this point in time, as well as SE's refusal to fix basic social functions like party search and the linkshell problems in a timely manner is the reason I don't want to pay. That certainly doesn't mean the game doesn't please me, or that I hate it. I adored this game before it ever came out, I defended it time and again for over a year publically before realizing its going to take a considerable amount of time to bring this game up to the standards I came to expect from playing FFXI. The fact that it isn't anywhere near those standards RIGHT NOW is the reason I don't want to play. My support for the game for over a year makes me feel as if I am a little entitled to critisize what they want to start charging me for, as does my initial 80$ investment. No one wants this game to thrive more than I do (except maybe TonyMOntana) but just because I dont put blinders on along with my douchebag dragon hat and blindly accept w/e they want to do with my money given the current condition of this game doesn't mean I won't ever be happy. Get the game to a point where there is literally so much for me to do that I don't know where to begin, and I will happily pay a monthly fee. But throwing stupid holiday festivals while taking over a year to fix basic social functions when the game is turning into a ghost town isn't my idea of a wise investment.

[TheVedis]

You realize those are from the JP players who take a look across days right and total the numbers? You really do have the IQ of a rock don't you? You really can't accept that this game probably has 10-20,000 players left can you?

Even if it is peak times, most servers barely hit 1,000, so at peak times across all servers, you can't even hit 18,000 players! So let's go with middle ground and say 600 players across 18 servers on average, that's 10,800 players. I really doubt on slow times you can expect that number to double or have that many different people logging on.

again, you just admited, at peak times, 11k or so players

since when does peak = total

peak hours usual = 1/3 to 1/4 of total players

im not saying we have the grandest numbers in the world, but you really are kidding yourself if you believe we only have 10k

[TonyMontana]

I don't think trolls will be gone because if anyone says anything negative they're instantly labelled as a troll and thus when SE does something someone else doesn't like and is paying for the change they don't like as well? I think it may even be worse lol.

You are so wrong dude, as of Jan 6th no one on these forums will ever speak poorly of FFXIV again. The half dozen trolls will be purged and the few hundred thousand happy paying customers will live in harmony, coming to the forums only to discuss fight strats and to give each other and the dev team encouragement.

This place will be amazing and the terrible trolls will not be able to ever post again because none of them bought any crysta and anyone who plans to purchase crysta just for the ability to troll these forums will instantly explode when they try to purchase the crysta.

Its gonna be beautiful man.

[Monty]

again, you just admited, at peak times, 11k or so players

since when does peak = total

peak hours usual = 1/3 to 1/4 of total players

im not saying we have the grandest numbers in the world, but you really are kidding yourself if you believe we only have 10k

Exactly, I'm saying 10,000 to maybe 20,000 total. If there's 11,000 at peak times, and those are probably the more recurring players, you really think there's an extra what, 10,000...20,000 players offline that are going to log on at some other time? Of those 11,000, many of them will be recurring, i'd be hard pressed to believe that there's more than 20,000 active players.

[TheVedis]

You are so wrong dude, as of Jan 6th no one on these forums will ever speak poorly of FFXIV again. The half dozen trolls will be purged and the few hundred thousand happy paying customers will live in harmony, coming to the forums only to discuss fight strats and to give each other and the dev team encouragement.

This place will be amazing and the terrible trolls will not be able to ever post again because none of them bought any crysta and anyone who plans to purchase crysta just for the ability to troll these forums will instantly explode when they try to purchase the crysta.

Its gonna be beautiful man.

people who still pay and play arent the issue

but you cant deny there are alot of people who dont touch this game anymore who just come in to talk nonstop trash and those are the ones that will be gone first and never come back

then we got people like you who will follow once they have no more crysta to bug us with

[TheVedis]

Exactly, I'm saying 10,000 to maybe 20,000 total. If there's 11,000 at peak times, and those are probably the more recurring players, you really think there's an extra what, 10,000...20,000 players offline that are going to log on at some other time? Of those 11,000, many of them will be recurring, i'd be hard pressed to believe that there's more than 20,000 active players.

50% is ALOT of players for peak hours, and i just cant see that being the case in any game

there are at the very least 30k players(1/3 on at peak hours)


lets remember, for 1/3 of the population to be on at any given time you assume thats at least everyone playing 8 hours a day
while alot of us in the forums think this way cuz we are gaming addicts for the most part, a majority of people who play these games ARE NOT addicts like us, dont participate in forums like us, and so on and so forth, they play for small periods each day

i know several people in my shell alone who play for 30 minutes to an hour tops each day if even that long. now granted thats also not a normal alotment of playing either, but to think that half the population is usualy on during peak times is just downright ignorant