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    Now I'm confused.
    With the possible lore-bomb in the Launch Trailer, there's something that bugs me.

    It's a bit more explicit in the French version, Solus says something like "Through prayers and sacrifices, this civilization created a new natural order for its planet. The Will of the Star was made manifest. [So Hydealyn is a primal, duh!]"
    Assuming it is the truth; this means that on the Source before the split, there was ONE civilization that "summoned" Hydealyn. Then it must have been copied 13 times.
    Fast-forward to 12 000 years later, I'd assume that the Shard populations have followed different paths (through their own culture and history), but in the end we are all linked to that original civilization on the Source before the Split, right?
    So even if the chances are thin, the same serie of causes and consequences could have happened on different Shards to get similar lineages (and individuals) among the populations ?

    That could be enough to explain those similar characters, yet entirely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    So even if the chances are thin, the same serie of causes and consequences could have happened on different Shards to get similar lineages (and individuals) among the populations ?

    That could be enough to explain those similar characters, yet entirely different.
    Yes, there is a CHANCE it could happen. But the reason folks resist this kind of thinking is that the chances aren't just slim, they're RIDICULOUSLY slim. I mean, there's a slim chance you could spontaneously catch fire and burn to ash, for no apparent reason. If you were reading a story, and that happened to one of the characters in order to pump up the drama (onoes, my true love just died for no reason and now I'm sad!), would you consider that to be good literature?

    It's bad if you use this kind of contrivance once. It's downright stupid to do it repeatedly. A logically-minded person might grimace and accept it if ONE person managed, by sheer chance, to be born in both worlds. If it happens to a LOT of people, though, the table-flipping begins.

    In the case of this universe, too, the odds of causes and consequences repeating the same way on two worlds is particularly unlikely - and that's due to the Calamities. The Calamities are orchestrated by the Ascians on the Source. We do not know if similar Calamities happen on the Shards - but whether they do or not doesn't much matter. Calamities are ENORMOUSLY chaotic - even if the same kind of Calamity happened at the same time on two worlds, the odds of a given individual being affected the same way on both worlds are particularly slim. Now, repeat six more times for six more Calamities.

    No, if we see doppelgangers across worlds, and the explanation is that they miraculously had the same lineage on both worlds, that's gonna completely destroy suspension of disbelief for anyone with two brain cells to rub together. If there are doppelgangers - except, maybe, for one-off "similar characters" like the wagon driver ("Hey, you remind me a lot of a guy I know on the Source! Had the same kind of job as you - guess jobs tend to attract a certain kind of person!") - they will need a better explanation than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
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    Yeah I actually am more likely to think like you, I was just outlining possible explanations of these weird Easter Egg/References/Echoes of one world from another.
    For instance... why would there be an Estinien-like character on the First when Dragons came on the Source after the split, so there is no dragonsong war on the First, so no need for an Azure Dragoon (let alone a Dragoon at all?). But then the annoying voice in my head says "why are Ao Ras called Drahn on the First then?"

    I don't know how Anonymoose survives with this constant wondering.
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