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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Yeah and like eleventy million players told Yoshi the mechanic was horrible. He popped on and told players to not panic. He wrote that what we read was not the final iteration of what white mages would be.

    Then S.E. released our job exactly the same as the version we all hated. I've never been so disappointed in Yoshi. I felt lied to and betrayed.
    There was one note during one of the interviews that particularly stuck me.

    Yoshi's answer to a question regarding design was along the lines of "We are always looking ahead of where we currently are when we design skills."

    FF14 may be the only game to claim to have a 10 year roadmap that I totally believe they can reach (We're starting year 7 now), but that was one of the sore points for me. He speaks from a perspective of looking at the finish line, and while we can all appreciate big picture thinking, the issue is that whether or not we have it later doesn't impact how empty something may feel now.
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    Althena Rolair
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    "We are always looking ahead of where we currently are when we design skills."
    Yeah, but that has NOTHING to do with the lilies, since they were entirely revamped for ShadowBringers.
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    4.0 Lilies were not good by any stretch, and we could tell before the game even went out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    You're joking. Please tell me you're joking.
    I didn't say they were good, but at least they do something other than looking pretty. If it's anything like the 4.0 fiasco, I could see the Afflatus spells being turned into ogcd eventually.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I didn't say they were good, but at least they do something other than looking pretty. If it's anything like the 4.0 fiasco, I could see the Afflatus spells being turned into ogcd eventually.
    They really should be in the first place. WHM didn't just need instant cast heals, they needed them to be oGCD...Badly. If this actually happens, I imagine WHM will be pretty happy with things. And it's not even that big of a buff to...Whatever the damage skill is, since it's still ~90 seconds per use, though WHM technically would get to DPS more while getting it.
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I didn't say they were good, but at least they do something other than looking pretty. If it's anything like the 4.0 fiasco, I could see the Afflatus spells being turned into ogcd eventually.
    The Afflatus spell caught me completely by surprise. Finally, something which works with lilies in a positive way. It's a Tetragrammaton without a 60 sec cooldown, and when you cast it, it fills up another resource bar.

    That's cool. I can accept a 2.5 sec GCD for that.



    This new development is exciting and I'm going to attempt to play through Stormblood so it's worth my while buy Shadowbringer.
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