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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Would be understandable if so many mess ups didn't result in one shot deaths. But SE relies on those too much IMHO.



    Problem its, it's not a potency increase. It's a potency loss

    SB: Miasma (230 pot) and Bio II (350 Pot) = 580 pot

    Low level: Miasma (230 pot) and Bio 1 (240) = 470 pot

    Shadowbringers: Bio = 240 pot (unchanged)

    Shadowbringers: Bio 2 = 500 pot

    So in low level content you're losing 230 potency on dots and in mid level content you're losing 80 potency on dots

    Yes ruin 2 and broil are buffed, but how stupid is it in low level content that your instant cast spell does more than your filler?

    From lvl 38 to 54 your best filler spell is what is supposed to be your mid mana, instant cast, movement spell.
    Miasma: 20 potency on cast and 35 potency over 24 seconds:300 total potency (20+(30x8))

    Pre ShB Bio II: 35 potency damage over 30 seconds (total potency 350)

    Total dot potency: 650

    ShB Bio II: 50 potency damage over 30 seconds. (Total potency 500)

    Difference: -150 potency

    However: Miasma costs a gcd, with it gone, that is replaced with a cast of Broil II.

    Broil II pre SHB: 230 potency

    Broil II post Shb: 260

    12 gcds in 30 seconds assuming 2.5 second gcd

    Sb rotation: M, Bio, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, M, B, B

    ShB rotation: B, Bio, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B

    Miasma Total Potency
    300+20+30=350

    Broil II Total Potency:
    Pre ShB: 230x9= 2070

    Post SHB: 260x11= 2860

    Bio II total potency:

    Pre ShB: 350

    Post SHB: 500

    Pre ShB: 350+ 350+ 2070=2770
    Post ShB: 2860+ 500= 3360

    Assuming no clipping/ogcd use, ShB rotation is ahead by 590 due to not needing to cast Miasma.

    Without clipping the gcd, the best chance to weave would be the bio II cast, so assuming we add an Energy Drain and a Shadow flare there...
    2770 + 150 + 250= 3170

    Alternatively you can use swiftcast to gain a weave space and an extra energy drain
    3170 +150= 3320

    Finally, replacing one of the Broil IIs with a Miasma II

    3320-30=3290 +150 = 3440

    3440- 3360 = 80

    Unless you spend all your aetherflow on ED in this 30 second window, you are dealing more potency in that time frame with the SHB rotation. I admit their are other factors, such as using Dissapation. But I'm trying to assume an average 30 second scenario

    To be honest, our potencies at lower levels are irrelevant to me considering that the healers are not the only ones who suffer from this issue. But the potency differences in a single target setting are nowhere near as severe as you think at current levels and beyond.

    Considering the fact that Ruin II gains its potency with each rank of Broil Mastery at that level range Ruin II will also have 100 potency. And while on a pure potency basis AoW will be stronger, this is bad use of your MP and inefficient for single targets.
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    Last edited by Brandedblade; 06-23-2019 at 02:13 AM. Reason: Completed an incomplete thought