Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

I don't care for inverse gender dimorphism on Viera, sorry.



There's been some individuals who have been trying to push this several times now, in some cases as some rather ill advised "revenge" for female Au Ra being so small. Luckily, it has not gained much traction.



Why should they be?

And why shouldn't them?
Not all women have to be femenine, not all men have to be masculine, and some ppl on this thread should learn that. Male viera and female viera should have little sexual dysphormism imo,maybe slightly taller/shorter, a bit more msucles, and the big difference to be the heads and the animations, with males we don't have a femenine man, but we kinda have male miqote? With females we dont have a masucline woman, even femroes are rather femenine, and if they add a race it should be to give different things to players. We don't need another female mitqote, we already have 3 in the form of female miqote female miqote cosplaying an au ra and female miqote cosplaying a female viera with bunny nose (in some cases), ears and taller legs. Give us a buff lioness, something that there isn't on this game

Also, could ya'll please STOP with the agenda BS? Ppl wanting to play masculine woman is part of some agenda? Also, there's a majority of ppl want female hrotgar to be buff and ripped and bestial, all of which are traidtionally considered masculine, so all of them are also trying to push an agenda?
Honestly it's sad seeing just how close minded ppl are

[Gwenorai]

And why shouldn't them?
Not all women have to be femenine, not all men have to be masculine, and some ppl on this thread should learn that. Male viera and female viera should have little sexual dysphormism imo,maybe slightly taller/shorter, a bit more msucles, and the big difference to be the heads and the animations, with males we don't have a femenine man, but we kinda have male miqote? With females we dont have a masucline woman, even femroes are rather femenine, and if they add a race it should be to give different things to players. We don't need another female mitqote, we already have 3 in the form of female miqote female miqote cosplaying an au ra and female miqote cosplaying a female viera with bunny nose (in some cases), ears and taller legs. Give us a buff lioness, something that there isn't on this game

Also, could ya'll please STOP with the agenda BS? Ppl wanting to play masculine woman is part of some agenda? Also, there's a majority of ppl who want female hrotgar to be buff and ripper and bestial, all of which are traidtionally considered masculine, so all of them are also trying to push an agenda?
Honestly it's sad seeing just how close minded ppl are

Not going to lie Zeylos the more and more you post the more I think you're letting something really personal get in the way here. I would advise distancing yourself a little and not looking for these genders to be added for personal validation - especially if they don't add them in. Anyway, he's not attacking you, he's asking legit why.

Seen people who do this in the past, and it never goes well when they use something digital for validation for themselves.

[Senn]

By human standards, female ronso do seem quite masculine. Side by side with a human character, you can see she's much bigger.


But if you're comparing a male ronso and female ronso side by side, then I guess you could call the female ronso more feminine.

What you're comparing the female ronso to is important. It's all a matter of perspective.

[zeylos]

Not going to lie Zeylos the more and more you post the more I think you're letting something really personal get in the way here. I would advise distancing yourself a little and not looking for these genders to be added for personal validation - especially if they don't add them in. Anyway, he's not attacking you, he's asking legit why.

Seen people who do this in the past, and it never goes well when they use something digital for validation for themselves.

Digital validation? I appreciate you try to help, and the fact that you are nice, something many others could do, but I have no self esteem problems. I simply wanna play as a male very, which I myself have stated I'd like to be masculine and ripped, and I'd like to see a strong woman and be able to have her as an alt

[zeylos]

Digital validation? I appreciate you try to help, and the fact that you are nice, something many others could do, but I have no self esteem problems. I simply wanna play as a male very, which I myself have stated I'd like to be masculine and ripped, and I'd like to see a strong woman and be able to have her as an alt

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[zeylos]

Could u ppl stop coming to this thread to be a nay-sayer?
U don't earn anything from it

[Crushnight]

Is that Yoshi P living under a rock? O__o i always had a hunch, but i thought he got better paid than that, Yoshi you need to demand a donkey and upgrade to boulder status asap

[MikkoAkure]

Could u ppl stop coming to this thread to be a nay-sayer?
U don't earn anything from it

People wonder why naysayers come to this thread while at the same time it devolves into the same four or five people arguing about their vision of male viera now that the discussion is stale and the thread is now continuously relegated to second page of GD until one of the same people pops in again to talk about their ideal viera guy, or links to fan art supporting their vision, or a cringy hot take, and the cycle begins anew like a serpent eating its own tail. It's becoming increasingly vitriolic and if you don't support the echo chamber, you get shouted down. The only thing those same people dislike more than others' ideas about what bunny men should look like, are people with a different idea on the subject entirely.

It's making it very hard to support male viera without being associated with this thread and the ideas being discussed in it.

[Senn]

if you don't support the echo chamber, you get shouted down.

A bit of an exaggeration. We had a few people come in here saying they did not want male viera being added for various reasons, which is fine. It's also fine for people to disagree with those reasons.

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Maybe Zeylos is just having a hard time articulating how they would want female hrothgar to look. Maybe you can ask them to clarify, or post a picture to get an idea of what they mean? For all we know, Zeylos could just mean they want hrothgar to look like female ronso from ffx.

And this is just a general comment not directed at anyone but there are some people who come off as over zealous sometimes and it's easy to look down on them. I think we should try to avoid being condescending.

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What is your opinion on slightly smaller males? Nothing significant.

I would suggest individuals who waver in the face of what amounts to a fairly minor and civil verbal disagreement ought to acquire sturdier exteriors.

Agreed.

There are discussions of whether or not male viera should be added, and discussions on the male viera appearance.

The discussions about whether or not they should be added are actually pretty civil. There are disagreements, but that's all it is. All that happens in these discussion is someone comes into the thread stating why they don't think male viera should be added, and another person will disagree and state their own reasons.
The discussion about the male viera appearance is a bit more heated.

However, people like to conflate these two discussions into one, and claim the supporters will attack people who do not want male viera added into the game. That's not really true.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

People wonder why naysayers come to this thread while at the same time it devolves into the same four or five people arguing about their vision of male viera now that the discussion is stale and the thread is now continuously relegated to second page of GD until one of the same people pops in again to talk about their ideal viera guy, or links to fan art supporting their vision, or a cringy hot take, and the cycle begins anew like a serpent eating its own tail. It's becoming increasingly vitriolic and if you don't support the echo chamber, you get shouted down. The only thing those same people dislike more than others' ideas about what bunny men should look like, are people with a different idea on the subject entirely.

It's making it very hard to support male viera without being associated with this thread and the ideas being discussed in it.

It also doesn't help that there's some toxic supporters in here that will target you if you don't agree with them, even if you're a supporter of male viera. The vitriol is very real here.