Yoshi-p loves Skyrim and Monster hunter 3rd

[Betelgeuzah]

Skyrim was an unbalanced mess from a gameplay perspective. But it wasn't an MMO so it didn't matter.

You could break that game without trying. That's how 'well' it was designed. In a competitive MMO environment that is as good as a dead game.

I hope SE ports the game to PS3 as well as Bethesda did. Although that was their fourth time with the same results so they're quite a bit ahead.

[Tenshi]

Skyrim was an unbalanced mess from a gameplay perspective. But it wasn't an MMO so it didn't matter.

You could break that game without trying. That's how 'well' it was designed. In a competitive MMO environment that is as good as a dead game.

Agreed. It's chock full of bugs and poor design decisions* that can lead to some painfully tedious gameplay, but because it's content heavy, visually advanced (though not as much as FFXIV), and single player, people are very forgiving of it.

*For instance, the UI is a mess, the tutorial can be easily broken leaving you in an endless loop, dragons can frequently be killed with ease via a number of almost impossible not to use exploits (ranged weapons ftw!), the NPCs continue endlessly to give their default lines every 5 seconds when you're standing near them (and the voice acting is the stuff of nightmares, so why would you do this--it's a design decision that still confuses me), and the list goes on.

[Scherwiz]

Agreed. It's chock full of bugs and poor design decisions* that can lead to some painfully tedious gameplay, but because it's content heavy, visually advanced (though not as much as FFXIV), and single player, people are very forgiving of it.

*For instance, the UI is a mess, the tutorial can be easily broken leaving you in an endless loop, dragons can frequently be killed with ease via a number of almost impossible not to use exploits (ranged weapons ftw!), the NPCs continue endlessly to give their default lines every 5 seconds when you're standing near them (and the voice acting is the stuff of nightmares, so why would you do this--it's a design decision that still confuses me), and the list goes on.

- Visually Advanced... ...

AI of Awesome?

I wonder how many people have died from bug testing ES5.

[Tenshi]

- Visually Advanced... ...

AI of Awesome?

I wonder how many people have died from bug testing ES5.

Yeah, I don't understand it either. People seem willing to overlook its obvious flaws but I don't see anything that truly compelling about it that would lead me to do so.

I quit playing the second time that the following happened:

1] cleared out huge dungeon all the way to final room
2] failed to discover item along the way necessary to opening final room
3] had to return to start of dungeon and reloot every body/check every bookshelf for missing item

Spending an hour poking around poorly lit virtual bookshelves waiting for my cursor to indicate there's something to loot isn't fun. In fact, it's very unfun. Sort of what one might expect if there was a hidden object level in hell.

[Hanemakikaze]

Agreed. It's chock full of bugs and poor design decisions* that can lead to some painfully tedious gameplay, but because it's content heavy, visually advanced (though not as much as FFXIV), and single player, people are very forgiving of it.

*For instance, the UI is a mess, the tutorial can be easily broken leaving you in an endless loop, dragons can frequently be killed with ease via a number of almost impossible not to use exploits (ranged weapons ftw!), the NPCs continue endlessly to give their default lines every 5 seconds when you're standing near them (and the voice acting is the stuff of nightmares, so why would you do this--it's a design decision that still confuses me), and the list goes on.

Irony is myself, & and I'm sure many many others still enjoyed it far more than most anything this year(or last year I guess?). Haters gonna hate.

[Scherwiz]

Irony is myself, & and I'm sure many many others still enjoyed it far more than most anything this year(or last year I guess?). Haters gonna hate.

Haters? or people with eyes and brains?

[Rhomagus]

Skyrim was an unbalanced mess from a gameplay perspective. But it wasn't an MMO so it didn't matter.

You could break that game without trying. That's how 'well' it was designed. In a competitive MMO environment that is as good as a dead game.

I hope SE ports the game to PS3 as well as Bethesda did. Although that was their fourth time with the same results so they're quite a bit ahead.

I wasn't referring to how buggy Skyrim is, nor how quickly overpowered you can become in that game. Hence, why I said, "The ideas themselves weren't bad, they were implemented poorly and weren't appropriately tuned for an MMO."

[Betelgeuzah]

I wasn't referring to how buggy Skyrim is, nor how quickly overpowered you can become in that game. Hence, why I said, "The ideas themselves weren't bad, they were implemented poorly and weren't appropriately tuned for an MMO."

Psh. Ideas are a dime in the dozen, and in this case the execution was lacking as well. Skyrim did nothing extraordinary. Oh, and sometimes ideas are born dead.

Irony is myself, & and I'm sure many many others still enjoyed it far more than most anything this year(or last year I guess?). Haters gonna hate.

Nothing ironic about it. People have liked subpar games since the beginning of time. Just don't act like XIV should learn anything from them.

[Hanemakikaze]

Psh. Ideas are a dime in the dozen, and in this case the execution was lacking as well. Skyrim did nothing extraordinary. Oh, and sometimes ideas are born dead.



Nothing ironic about it. People have liked subpar games since the beginning of time. Just don't act like XIV should learn anything from them.

This statement is true, perfect example would be FFXIV, definitely not Skyrim.