The Warrior of Light is not tempered by Hydaelyn.

[Crushnight]

Modern Chinese, Korean and Japanese is written left to right when horizontal, just like the Western system.
When the characters are in columns or pages, it's right to left.

If it's a horizontal mural, I'm guess they'd read it left to right unless it was covered in word columns.

ah ty that clears that up for me

[Alleo]

Though the cave art mural has the idea that Zodiark was born first and Hydaelyn came into being and they shared the sea for a time gnawing away at me.

But is that really Zodiark? It could be the first one that went under a complete other name and then split into Zodiark and Hydaelyn and because Zodiark was black too like the first one, the Ascians believe that he is the one true god. Or its just all Ascian talk because they want to be in the right. For me at least it looks more like the god or primal was split into two different aspects of him/her.

[Jennah]

Frankly, my trust in Solus is so low that I'd want to check if the paint is still wet on that mural. (Not to mention my trust in video game trailer revelations.)

[Anonymoose]

But is that really Zodiark? It could be the first one that went under a complete other name and then split into Zodiark and Hydaelyn and because Zodiark was black too like the first one, the Ascians believe that he is the one true god. Or its just all Ascian talk because they want to be in the right. For me at least it looks more like the god or primal was split into two different aspects of him/her.

That's another thing I considered, but it felt like the second-most-likely interpretation because the white one-halo and white two-halo entities look as similar as the black one-halo and black two-halo entities, and only Hydaelyn is ascendant now. It's slightly awkward to say this equally-dark-to-the-dark-one-halo-one entity is the combination one. I'd expect the union entity to be some kind of, pardon the pun, gray area between them.

[Cerat]

So as odd as this may sound, and I’ll admit I was one of the people that jumped on the idea that the WoL being tempered from the get go. Honestly I still stand on that, but this thread has given me plenty to think about on the subject.

However, as for why I still think that we’re tempered: there is no steadfast rule when it comes to tempering, period. As many have said there’s varying degrees with Ifrit alone. Ysale is never tempered, nor are the heretics that we’re told. Sure they’re zealous, and follow her, but they’re also independent and capable of thought. They’re heretics because they dare to believe there is anything other than what the church claims and drink of dragons blood. The Sylphs themselves are shown to have, honestly, fairly clever disguises while in the Sylphlands when tempered and are capable of clearly higher, and honestly, independent thinking. They want to protect their forest, but there’s more to them than just that. The Sylphs of the Sylphlands allow us the communion with Ramuh, and don’t try to force us to be tempered afterwards or even try kill us after we slay their protector.

That being said, what if Hydaelyns method of tempering also has varying levels. The first being the Echo, which is more widespread. As was mentioned previously, most inhabitants of Eorzea know nothing of the mothercrystal. However one trait we see commonly with those that have the Echo and their compatriots is a blind faith in her, and I do mean blind. We don’t question her, as is brought up numerous times. We listen to what she requests of us, and then we do it. The Crystals of Light could very likely be another degree of it. The Warriors of Darkness and our own WoL/D did their best to collect the Six Elemental Crystals of Light, and the WoDs used them to grant Hydaelyn power, essentially returning aether to her that she used to manifest the crystals in the first place. We only really deal with them when we’re in the state that has to do in some way with the Echo/Hydaelyn. The final, most severe, degree of tempering would be Minfillia’s case. Becoming the “voice” of the Crystal herself. Minfillia loses her free will, becoming fully bound to the crystal, her visions and her will. Just because she is able to speak as Minfillia does not mean she IS Minfillia, which she does point out when we meet her as the Voice of the Mother. We also know when she was fleeing Ul’dah that she heard Hydaelyn calling to her and, instead of continuing to flee, she was pulled back into the collapsing tunnel, and the next time we meet she is utterly changed.

While we may “betray” Hydaelyn and become the Warrior of Darkness in Shadowbringers, this could be an effect of Midgardsormr’s severing of our blessing of light. While we do “get it back” there is nothing that says it’s the same as it once was. One thing to note is, while it has the whole silent protagonist thing going in early ARR, our dialogue, our choices, our characters personality becomes more moldable after we are severed from that connection and we have a new voice talking to us in the form of little Middy. While that can easily be explained as “oh they didn’t have the systems in place back then” it can also be interpreted as “we were more strongly under her control back then and he helped us slow our overall tempering”

That being said, I am open to either outcome. I won’t lie and say I am hoping we’re not on the tempered route, because I honestly am hoping we are since it would cast an interesting light on our fights up until now.

[Iscah]

The final, most severe, degree of tempering would be Minfillia’s case. Becoming the “voice” of the Crystal herself. Minfillia loses her free will, becoming fully bound to the crystal, her visions and her will. Just because she is able to speak as Minfillia does not mean she IS Minfillia, which she does point out when we meet her as the Voice of the Mother. We also know when she was fleeing Ul’dah that she heard Hydaelyn calling to her and, instead of continuing to flee, she was pulled back into the collapsing tunnel, and the next time we meet she is utterly changed.

It's important to note that her situation changes. When we first see her as the Voice of the Mother, she is completely bound to Hydaelyn - explained as a necessity because Hydaelyn has been so severely weakened.

But the second time, with the Warriors of Darkness, Minfilia specifically says that the additional power given by the combined crystals has strengthened Hydaelyn enough that she can set Minfilia free again to act as Her emissary on the First.

She's still bound to Hydaelyn's power, but no longer fully absorbed by it.

[Cerat]

It's important to note that her situation changes. When we first see her as the Voice of the Mother, she is completely bound to Hydaelyn - explained as a necessity because Hydaelyn has been so severely weakened.

But the second time, with the Warriors of Darkness, Minfilia specifically says that the additional power given by the combined crystals has strengthened Hydaelyn enough that she can set Minfilia free again to act as Her emissary on the First.

She's still bound to Hydaelyn's power, but no longer fully absorbed by it.

While this is true, she is still very much changed by Hydaelyn. She not only is physically changed, she is also changed when it comes to how she acts. While we do not specifically know if it was her willingly accepting the role as emissary or if she is so enthralled by Hydaelyn’s power, we do know that now she is set to go about the role without her own will completely intact, much like those tempered souls bound to gather more innocents to temper and worship their Primals. At the end of the day she is no longer the Minfillia that would pray us return to the Waking Sands.

Edit:: also, in regards to the necessity of it, we only get that from what Hydaelyn herself says. While we had lost contact with her after the blessing of light was stripped from us, we aren’t given any proof that she required a host other than Minfillia as the Voice of the Mother telling us so.

[ObsidianFire]

That being said, what if Hydaelyns method of tempering also has varying levels. The first being the Echo, which is more widespread. As was mentioned previously, most inhabitants of Eorzea know nothing of the mothercrystal. However one trait we see commonly with those that have the Echo and their compatriots is a blind faith in her, and I do mean blind. We don’t question her, as is brought up numerous times. We listen to what she requests of us, and then we do it.

The big problem with saying the Echo is how Hydaelyn tempers people is that the Ascians themselves have the Echo as well. And they hate Hydaelyn. So much so that they want Zodiark to come back and kill her. There's also the problem of the Resonant, who have somehow manage to give themselves the Echo drawn from another person.

So you've got people who like Hydaelyn who have the Echo, people who hate Hydaelyn who have the Echo and people who don't care about Hydaelyn who have the Echo. Which if the Echo is a form of Tempering makes it the weirdest (and potentially the most counter-productive) form of Tempering we've ever seen.

[Cerat]

The big problem with saying the Echo is how Hydaelyn tempers people is that the Ascians themselves have the Echo as well. And they hate Hydaelyn. So much so that they want Zodiark to come back and kill her. There's also the problem of the Resonant, who have somehow manage to give themselves the Echo drawn from another person.

So you've got people who like Hydaelyn who have the Echo, people who hate Hydaelyn who have the Echo and people who don't care about Hydaelyn who have the Echo. Which if the Echo is a form of Tempering makes it the weirdest (and potentially the most counter-productive) form of Tempering we've ever seen.

The Ascians, save for Elidibus and Solus, are very much in the camp of serving Zodiark and wanting to usher in his return or at the very least cause the rejoining of the two beings. Having been born, at least from how it’s told this far, from the same being it would only make sense if they shared some abilities with one another. The Resonants, as we know it, do not possess the Echo, but rather are able to read the intent of a person based on how the aether shifts around them. Yes their manufactured abilities do grant them some extra powers, that’s all they are, manufactured.

[MrThinker]

The Ascians, save for Elidibus and Solus, are very much in the camp of serving Zodiark and wanting to usher in his return or at the very least cause the rejoining of the two beings. Having been born, at least from how it’s told this far, from the same being it would only make sense if they shared some abilities with one another. The Resonants, as we know it, do not possess the Echo, but rather are able to read the intent of a person based on how the aether shifts around them. Yes their manufactured abilities do grant them some extra powers, that’s all they are, manufactured.

I would like to point out that Fordola (as a Resonant) does indeed have the Echo... Krile's hyper-sensitive version of it. That is why she is plagued by so many visions when we see her again in 4.1 and has a bit of a humbling moment when she takes a glimpse at our memories.