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  1. #11
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    For all we know they're adding MORE fate challenge logs to make it a viable alternative for leveling past level 50
    These 2 don't scale past level 50
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  2. #12
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    Solala Sola
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I don't know why they never scaled fate exp and challenge log entries for fates to scale decently after 50.
    It's clear they never intended for players to use fates after 50 for leveling, but I don't understand whyyyyyyy, because they never gave any other incentive to do them.
    In SB they did tie a few mounts to a few of them, but mounts were never enough incentive for me to go out of my way and now SB fates are just as dead as HW ones.

    I know they want dungeons to be the fastest method of leveling, but they could quintuple post 50 fate exp and dungeons would still be superior since they give in the range of a measly 1% exp needed.
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  3. #13
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    These 2 don't scale past level 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbus View Post
    I don't know why they never scaled fate exp and challenge log entries for fates to scale decently after 50.
    They do scale past level 50, up until lvl 59, and they don't scale any less decently after 50 either. It's always been 15% of a level (for each of the two FATE ones), or 10% and 15% of a level (for the two dungeon ones).
    And they'll likely start scaling up until lvl 69 with the release of 5.0.
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  4. #14
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    JWag12787's Avatar
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    Kaiya Nakamura
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Essentially, they warned us so we don't log in and wonder where it went. They are making changes to FATEs, which it may or may not be related to. All we can do is patiently wait and see what is to come. They could have just taken it and not said a word, and people planning to use it would still try to use it.
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  5. #15
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    disturbedcobra's Avatar
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    Radimir Amira
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    They do scale past level 50, up until lvl 59, and they don't scale any less decently after 50 either. It's always been 15% of a level (for each of the two FATE ones), or 10% and 15% of a level (for the two dungeon ones).
    And they'll likely start scaling up until lvl 69 with the release of 5.0.
    Firstly they max out 60, not 59. And secondly, are you referring to the FATE catagory ones scaling up? Both of the FATEs challenges are being removed entirely so there is no scaling involved for them. We do not know quite yet what they plan to implement to replace them, evne if they are replaced with anyting so can't really say what will happene till Early Access next week or close to when the patch notes hit.
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  6. #16
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by disturbedcobra View Post
    Firstly they max out 60, not 59.
    No, they stop scaling past 59. Taking the FATE ones as example, each one gives 15% of the player's current level (when it does scale). At lvl 59, you'll get 583,200 exp (15% of the 3,888,000 exp required to hit lvl 60.) At lvl 60, you'll get 583,200 exp. If it were to scale at lvl 60, the reward would have been 670,500 exp (15% of the 4,470,000 required to hit lvl 61).

    (Screenshot taken on a lvl 64 job)


    Quote Originally Posted by disturbedcobra
    And secondly, are you referring to the FATE catagory ones scaling up? Both of the FATEs challenges are being removed entirely so there is no scaling involved for them.
    Did you even bother to read the thread before posting?

    Yes, they're being removed. No, they haven't been removed yet. My posts were pointing out the misinformation regarding FATE/Dungeon challenge logs not scaling past lvl 50, including the two challenge log objectives that are currently still ingame.
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  7. #17
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    Radimir Amira
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    No, they stop scaling past 59. Taking the FATE ones as example, each one gives 15% of the player's current level (when it does scale). At lvl 59, you'll get 583,200 exp (15% of the 3,888,000 exp required to hit lvl 60.) At lvl 60, you'll get 583,200 exp. If it were to scale at lvl 60, the reward would have been 670,500 exp (15% of the 4,470,000 required to hit lvl 61).

    (Screenshot taken on a lvl 64 job)
    You just reiterated my point. It CAPS at 60, meaning it stops at 60. The end of the line for increased exp. 59 to 60 is the highest it goes. At 60 to 61 it remains what it was previously and doesn't go higher.
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  8. #18
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by disturbedcobra View Post
    You just reiterated my point. It CAPS at 60, meaning it stops at 60. The end of the line for increased exp. 59 to 60 is the highest it goes. At 60 to 61 it remains what it was previously and doesn't go higher.
    The only point you made was trying to correct me for some unknown reason.
    What was the point of your "correction" when I never said that they CAP at 59? Let me re-post what I actually said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    They do scale past level 50, up until lvl 59
    Meaning those challenge logs SCALE up until lvl 59, as in they stop scaling PAST lvl 59 (since they'll no longer scale when a character is at lvl 60).
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    Last edited by Nezerius; 06-22-2019 at 12:22 AM.

  9. #19
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    snip.
    See if you just waited for the preliminary notes instead of assuming the change was going to be a bad thing, you'd have found out that no one was going to get punished for anything. Talk about jumping the gun....

    In Your FATE I
    Complete 5 FATEs with the highest rating possible.
    In Your FATE II
    Complete 10 FATEs with the highest rating possible.
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  10. #20
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Possibly designed to stop people from joining in at the last second of a FATE and instantly earning credit for the "complete ten FATEs" challenge.
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