This....needs to be replaced ASAP

[CorbinDallas]

This whole thing just screams "petty" to me. To see anything that bad you have to literally go out of your way to find it, and if you're doing that then you've got no support from me.

[Amnmaat]

I'm not tasting anything, all I'm asking for is the basis of your generalization. And yes, it was a light-hearted joke. Just because you chose to take offense to it doesn't make it anything more or less.

People don't get suspended or banned due to bad textures, but they do for shady moderation which is what my thread was about, there's nothing 'questionable' about it.

Just like you took offense to my generalization of you; thus you tasted your own medicine.
There you go again calling out the moderators. They have all the evidence they need here as to why they ban you, it's not because it's shady it's because you engage on personal attacks and general off topic spam.

Who are you, the texture patrol?

Yes, care to make a thread about gossip so we can talk about your obsession with gossip instead of going off topic?

[Joven]

Just like you took offense to my generalization of you; thus you tasted your own medicine.
There you go again calling out the moderators. They have all the evidence they need here as to why they ban you, it's not because it's shady it's because you engage on personal attacks and general off topic spam.


Yes, care to make a thread about gossip so we can talk about your obsession with gossip instead of going off topic?

So I'm offended because I asked for the source of your generalization? Ok. If you had given me proof of your claim that male hyurs acted like simps then I would have no complaints.

Apparently you didn't understand the gist of my thread about moderation. It's shady because of instead of warning people or closing down an unproductive thread they just simply suspend or ban people. Doesn't matter how much evidence they have against someone, everyone deserves a chance to correct their actions.

I'm going off topic because I'm addressing you about your accusations about people name calling. And when have I ever engaged in personal attacks? If you have the evidence of such wrongdoings then report me and you'll never have to hear from me again.

[HyoMinPark]

Honestly, I find making a thread about this issue fairly petty. There are poor textures in the game, sure—but unless you go really out of your way to look for them or play with your camera zoomed all the way in, it’s unlikely you’ll actually notice them to the point that they are as egregious as claimed.

HD texture packs would be lovely, but the developers have already stated that they have no plans for it due to the amount of time and resources it would take to actually upscale the textures for this game (they currently only have one texture, and it’s the one we all see—no textures for anything are scaled to HD at this time), and I actually understand this reasoning. Plus, they cater to the lowest common denominator when it comes to game optimization, and right now that is low-end PCs. Not even the PS4 or the PS4 Pro, the latter of which can handle 4K, if I’m not mistaken. Eventually the PS4 will show more of its age, but I think what holds them back are people who play on computers not exactly built for MMOs (i.e., toasters).



As for the aside about the completely unrelated thread—if you are that interested in what happened, OP, perhaps you should go read it instead of just assuming what it was about. It was honestly a well-needed thread, and a topic that appears on this forum from time to time (well within reason, too).

[Amnmaat]

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It's a request, apparently they are definitely able to fix things that go against their design philosophy. The grass quality was fixed because someone pointed out how low quality the game's grass was.

So I'm offended because I asked for the source of your generalization? Ok. If you had given me proof of your claim that male hyurs acted like simps then I would have no complaints.

Apparently you didn't understand the gist of my thread about moderation. It's shady because of instead of warning people or closing down an unproductive thread they just simply suspend or ban people. Doesn't matter how much evidence they have against someone, everyone deserves a chance to correct their actions.

I'm going off topic because I'm addressing you about your accusations about people name calling. And when have I ever engaged in personal attacks? If you have the evidence of such wrongdoings then report me and you'll never have to hear from me again.

I don't have to give you proof about anything not related to the textures in FFXIV. If you want to talk about gossip then that's on you.
It's evident you don't understand why the moderators/community managers do what they do when you decide to spam and take topics off topic.

[Fynlar]

I really don't understand the flak the OP is getting for this. The example provided legitimately does look really bad and it's not like it can only be seen from some OOB area that was clearly never meant to be traversed.

People have stirred up the pot here way more with regard to much less, graphics-wise.

[Krotoan]

Honestly, I find making a thread about this issue fairly petty. There are poor textures in the game, sure—but unless you go really out of your way to look for them or play with your camera zoomed all the way in, it’s unlikely you’ll actually notice them to the point that they are as egregious as claimed.

HD texture packs would be lovely, but the developers have already stated that they have no plans for it due to the amount of time and resources it would take to actually upscale the textures for this game (they currently only have one texture, and it’s the one we all see—no textures for anything are scaled to HD at this time), and I actually understand this reasoning. Plus, they cater to the lowest common denominator when it comes to game optimization, and right now that is low-end PCs. Not even the PS4 or the PS4 Pro, the latter of which can handle 4K, if I’m not mistaken. Eventually the PS4 will show more of its age, but I think what holds them back are people who play on computers not exactly built for MMOs (i.e., toasters).



As for the aside about the completely unrelated thread—if you are that interested in what happened, OP, perhaps you should go read it instead of just assuming what it was about. It was honestly a well-needed thread, and a topic that appears on this forum from time to time (well within reason, too).

I don't think we're even talking about that in here anymore. I saw "baldy blah blah" and then there was a lot of arguing and posturing and now we have a full blown argument going on.

[HyoMinPark]

It's a request, apparently they are definitely able to fix things that go against their design philosophy. The grass quality was fixed because someone pointed out how low quality the game's grass was.

At least grass has a semi-decent reason—it’s everywhere. But you brought up an obscure tree that I’ve never even noticed, and I’ve been playing for coming up on 4 years in a couple months...

[Joven]

I don't have to give you proof about anything not related to the textures in FFXIV. If you want to talk about gossip then that's on you.
It's evident you don't understand why the moderators/community managers do what they do when you decide to spam and take topics off topic.

*sigh* I swear you're doing this on purpose.

I'm not talking about gossip, just your claims that people are calling you names. Obviously I don't understand why the moderators do what they do, otherwise I wouldn't have made a thread about it.

So to bring this whole farce of a conversation back on topic: the texture in an area where no-one will ever visit or the large majority of players will never notice is fine. Adding needless textures in zones like that causes unnecessary strain when loading areas. It's the same reason why most models are just hollow shells and one of the reasons, or so I've heard, that 1.0 failed. Because everything was needlessly over textured and it caused all kinds of rendering problems for people.

[Amnmaat]

*sigh* I swear you're doing this on purpose.

I'm not talking about gossip, just your claims that people are calling you names. Obviously I don't understand why the moderators do what they do, otherwise I wouldn't have made a thread about it.

So to bring this whole farce of a conversation back on topic: the texture in an area where no-one will ever visit or the large majority of players will never notice is fine. Adding needless textures in zones like that causes unnecessary strain when loading areas. It's the same reason why most models are just hollow shells and one of the reasons, or so I've heard, that 1.0 failed. Because everything was needlessly over textured and it caused all kinds of rendering problems for people.

You finally turned off the gossip channel.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Bringing bad sectors to the same level of detail as the rest of the environment has a negligible effect on processing. The major reason why they had to do things like this was because of 32bit OS memory limitations, not because CPUs will explode if they replace bad textures from the game.

At least grass has a semi-decent reason—it’s everywhere. But you brought up an obscure tree that I’ve never even noticed, and I’ve been playing for coming up on 4 years in a couple months...

When it comes to art and design there's no "this is more important than that" statements, it's subjective. It all falls on the devs to evaluate (re-evaluate) their design standards. With the game dropping 32bit OS support this is a great chance for them to re-evaluate some of the worst visuals of the game.