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  1. #6911
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    Iroira Sinzha
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    Honestly I only see male viera being bashed or downvoted when people keep pushing it too far with the subject. Like if SE announces something completely unrelated to Viera in the slightest but people start with the "Omg is that silhouette nobody can distinguish a male Viera?! SE IS WORKING!". Then everybody is like "dude that's just a tree, calm the **** down".
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  2. #6912
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    Honestly I only see male viera being bashed or downvoted when people keep pushing it too far with the subject. Like if SE announces something completely unrelated to Viera in the slightest but people start with the "Omg is that silhouette nobody can distinguish a male Viera?! SE IS WORKING!". Then everybody is like "dude that's just a tree, calm the **** down".
    Yup, and I'll admit I also find that annoying, too.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  3. #6913
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    Radimir Avira
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    Honestly I only see male viera being bashed or downvoted when people keep pushing it too far with the subject. Like if SE announces something completely unrelated to Viera in the slightest but people start with the "Omg is that silhouette nobody can distinguish a male Viera?! SE IS WORKING!". Then everybody is like "dude that's just a tree, calm the **** down".
    Every darn Live letter chat or even when people talk about Hrothgar. "BUT MALE VIERA" it gets really annoying.

    That Blade and Soul pic is horrible and the fact that I can't unsee that just ruined my day. Thankfully they already said a firm no on that.
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  4. #6914
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I mean, going by how they live and all, would female miqo'te, a race of strong woman who live and struggle on the desert (at least the seekers), be wearing a small bra and a miniskirt as their racial armor and have the musscle of an anime waifu? I doubt it. Races aren't designed by lore, the race is almost 100% of the times designed to catter to a specific set of ppl, designed, and then a lore is made to fit them (kinda). Male viera wouldn't look strong becuase of lore, but because the devs think it would sell more. If not, look at female au ra and tell me that is a race of strong and fierce dragons
    Where are people getting the idea that all miqo'te live a tribal existence in the desert or that's at least their point of origin? So far the only tribes we've seen in an actual tribal society are the U tribe of Thanalan and the M tribe (sorta) in Gyr Abania. The small amount of miqo'te in Thanalan doesn't even register on Ul'dah's demographics. Meanwhile 20% of Limsa Lominsa's population is made up of sun seekers and 95% of all miqos we bump into are cosmopolitan miqo'te who live in towns or cities, where fashion isn't dictated by survival. Suggesting that all miqo'te women need to be desert ready just because one or two small tribes out of 26 lives in the desert is like suggesting all hyur should have thick coats and thicker beards because some of them can be found in Coerthas. All that being said, this comparison doesn't work for male viera since we're explicitly told that ALL male viera hide in their jungles and that they're a bit savage.

    And again it's a bit awkward to compare them to male moon keepers since the lore states that they still travel town to town and they just tend not to stay in one place for long. The existence of moon keeper miqo men as adventurers doesn't break any lore in my view since that fits their lifestyle. And though they may be rare, they're rare in Eorzea, where most of the game takes place and 100% of adventurers are from. Othard, where the viera are from, has no culture of adventurers and the part of Othard they live in is thousands of miles away in either direction from the story that we're involved with bar one series of raids where we're in and out. It'll be interesting to see how hrothgar and viera are brought into the story lorewise since neither are from Eorzea, but it's more of a stretch to see male viera make it since as far as we've seen, they're incompatible with society.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm down for having male viera, but the lore was written under the assumption that they won't exist as a playable race/gender so making any comparisons to existing race/genders in the game doesn't mean a thing at this point.
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  5. #6915
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    I really feel like male Miqo'te and female Roes were a mistake and while I just can't get behind a male Viera I am full in support of Female Hrothgar!
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  6. #6916
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    I really feel like male Miqo'te and female Roes were a mistake and while I just can't get behind a male Viera I am full in support of Female Hrothgar!
    Why do you think they were a mistake?
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  7. #6917
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    I really feel like male Miqo'te and female Roes were a mistake
    I could say something eloquent in rebuttal... but it's 4am. So to you I say: nope.
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  8. #6918
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    DevilsDontFly's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    I really feel like male Miqo'te and female Roes were a mistake and while I just can't get behind a male Viera I am full in support of Female Hrothgar!
    Then why come to the male viera support thread instead of the female hrothgar one? I give you a C+ for the effort. Didn't quite land.
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  9. #6919
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Very few - if any - people within this thread are asking for Hrothgar and Roegadyn style bulk for Viera men. I'm not sure why that keeps being brought up.
    Very few people bring up child Viera in this thread and yet its also always brought up by some. And Halivel is not wrong, people probably have a very different view on what is well-built. I already see Elezen as quite well built men. Others see them as too slender.

    Edit: See even in the last few pages there is talk about child Viera again..even though the amount of people that wanted something truly childlike was barely there. We would probably have way less talk about that if people would stop bringing them up.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 06-21-2019 at 05:45 PM.

  10. #6920
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    The thing with Elezen is that they look slim because they have elongated limbs, almost comically so. A tall, yet more...proportionate body would look bulkier just because the limbs are shorter, even if the height remains the same. Case in point, male Au ra.
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