Housing demolition timer need to be changed! Sitting on your property needs to count.

[Prophecy]

I find statements like these troubling. Its like you are saying he isnt useing his house when clearly... He was. He made the outside look the way he wanted and goes there to relax, that is in no way NOT useing the house... Just not useing it in a way you would. Maybe he has no interest in crafting or setting up the crafting stations in house or maybe he dosent have the air ship or sub. To be frank, there really isnt much to go into the house outside of those things. Hell, i hate the fact that you cant que for a dungeon and spawn back in your house afterwards, maybe he hates that as well and just chills outside his home. People use their house for many diffrent reasons and peoplr shouldnt judge him for how he uses it by saying things like "well you arent useing it right and someone else would appreciate it more" essentially.

1000% agree! and correct! Could not have said it better myself! Thanks! !-_-!

[Prophecy]

That's a bit of an oxymoron there. If he was using the house, he would not have been subjected to the demolition timer.

thus the post OXYMORON, change can come. !-_-!

[Prophecy]

After reading over this, I can only have one thought. If you can't be bothered to click a front door once in 45 days, then you're far too lazy and I don't feel bad for you. I have alts that have done nothing more than log in to keep houses on Data Centers I no longer play on for 3 years now. It takes almost none of my time. I don't need a timer to remember that. I don't need in game notifications. I don't need emails. I have managed it for over 1000 days with no trouble. I will say again, if you were too lazy to click your front door for 45 days, or too unconcerned to think that you might need to, then I hope whoever gets your house enjoys it more than you did, cause it sounds like they will. :P

Sounds like you been trained well KUPO! Keep up the good work! My post will not affect you in anyway! Cheers! Moving on!

[Prophecy]

The reason they can't have it just reset when you enter your property's exterior is that they don't have a way to detect that you entered your property's exterior. They only have a manual check that you're already on your property, done when you use the Housing menu, for example. This is the same reason that using the Housing menu outside of your property tells you to get inside your property when you use them, rather than just being greyed out when you're not on your property. But it would be easy enough to implement, right? - just cross-reference the location of every player in the ward with the locations of the housing every server tick. Trouble is, this would eat up a ton of processing time, even if they did some sanity checks like discarding players who hadn't moved since the last tick.

So it can be done. MOVE freely like tha CLOUDS! Good TIP! !-_-!

[Prophecy]

Sitting on the lawn isn't interacting with the house, thus it cannot contribute to resetting the timer. It isn't a question of whether the OP is using their house currently but that they couldn't be bothered to step inside it once in 45 days. There is a very simple solution to this issue.

It's really not about me. It's about US! thus the post! Everyone likes to play blame game is all ok with me. It's about improvements at the end of the day. Also, i have already stated why i did not enter. Read full post. Beach BUM FTW HAPS !-_-!

[Sei_Konsetsu]

I will say this, where as OP did screw up by not going into his house, it dosent change the fact that the system is rather flawed. If someone is paying a sub, they shouldnt have to go back to their home just to go inside... For those people jumping in and saying they do it with multiple characters, then you technically arent useing your homes as the game intended either and just have them to have them. I dont think thats super wrong, though i will say why would you ever need more than one home is beyond me.

The system should be changed to either no cause time lose as long as your sub is active and only start the timer the moment your sub goes unpaid or at least allow simply being on your property to count seeing as somewhere the game knows who owns the lot and who has permissions because i belive fountains and certain light fixtures as well as the firepit cannot be used by people who are not owners or part of said fc.

[Prophecy]

Indeed. Anyone can literally sit on anyone else's lawn. It requires, and contributes, nothing. The OP was probably in clicking distance of the door multiple times in 45 days if he was chilling on his lawn. And not once, did he think "I wonder if I need to go inside for it to count? I wonder if I should at least think about this or look into it. Or just go inside to be safe." Nah. Just shrugged it off like Leo diCaprio and then got mad at the consequences of not taking more responsibility for it.

Also, saying I shouldn't judge someone for not going into their house for 45 days because someone else would appreciate it more than they clearly did, when you can get all the exterior benefits of a home from an FC house, is ridiculous. I do judge. And I will. And I will not feel bad about it. His reasons matter. If his reasons don't include the house itself, then he doesnt NEED the house itself, and someone else WILL appreciate it more. Sorry not sorry.

Preach, You know me so well too? Sounds personal...moving on !-_-!

[Sei_Konsetsu]

Why is everyones argument "someone who deserves it more" or "will appreciate it more" comeing up so much? I tend to wander around the housing districts on my server, randomly bounceing around from ward to ward to see other peoples house and get ideas for my own, this includes going in homes (i dont get why people lock their homes by the way, not like someone can take things) and for the record, even when doing this for hours at a time, i hardly ever see anyone in the houseing area. Everynow and then ill see someone and its usually someone who just got a house, but most house areas are deserted. Everone just idles at the 3 starting cities atherite.

[Prophecy]

He was using the yard—not the house itself, which is what is required to actively keep a plot in this game. He checked retainers, interacted with the Armoire, and did anything else one could do in a house in his FC house—not the personal one he lost. If he just wanted a yard to loiter about in, there are plenty of those to go around. But you can’t argue that using the yard = using the house because it’s not actually making use of the house itself. And that’s what the game requires of housing owners: to use the estate proper. Not its yard.

I honestly find it troubling that people defend this type of complaining. At some point, the OP needs to accept personal responsibility for failing to meet the conditions set forth by the game to keep their plot. It doesn’t seem like they are wanting to do that, but instead blame a system that plenty of others seem to keep up with and work within just fine.


For the record, my personal house doesn’t use crafting stations or any of the like—and I’m notoriously bad for keeping up with airships, so a friend does that in my FC. I go into my personal house for retainers and to just listen to music on the orchestrion while I’m idle, talking to friends, or waiting for my queue to pop. Sometimes I do idle in my yard—but I at least take the time to enter my estate every day, unlike what has happened here.

"If he just wanted a yard to loiter about in, there are plenty of those to go around. " "Sometimes I do idle in my yard" Funny, Why you say it's "Loiter" when i do it and just "idle" for when you do! LuL

Can you Loiter in front of your own house in peace anymore??lol??

[Stigmar]

Did larry or merri lose their house too not too long ago, Now I don't agree with the sitting on a house nonsense however perhaps actually adding a in game notice when you log in and not when you click on the door it self I mean they already have a system setup to do it when you have 5 days of sub left am pretty sure they could add that or a pop message when you login in the game.