Rework the market system to allow purchase offer listings and eliminate undercutting

[Insertcoins]

can someone explain to me wtf this guy is saying to me? i don't think he understands my thread or what i'm proposing at all.

It's called reading. And it's also called disagreeing. Either way I disagree with your idea. There happy?

[Vahlnir]

tell me where i said the market system was broken pls

By asking for a market system rework. That implies that something is either wrong or broken.

[NessaWyvern]

Ah, I remember the GTS. It was actually pretty good, it spanned all servers, and nothing was really overpriced, and prices stayed pretty stable, minus when an item was chosen to be merched by the community. If I wanted prayer pots for cheap, I could just set a lower buying price before I go to sleep, and wake up in the morning to find that I got some You wouldn't have to keep checking the MB for cheap prices like you have to with the MB system atm.

Atm, some mats can fluctuate quite a bit, and you can't check the price of something on all servers easily.
The GTS imo was actually better compared to the FFXIV market board, I remember how much I missed the GTS when I first started playing back in ARR.

Also, those who say FFXIV is player controlled? The GTS was player controlled also.

I think people disagreeing here have never experienced the GTS first-hand. It was so bloody good, knowing that what you craft had a certain, stable price, whereas the sell offers people did would give more power to the buyer, preventing stuff from being too overpriced, like some items are now in FFXIV.

The GTS system was honestly a better system. You could also put up a stack of 99 on the GTS, and instead of someone else being forced to buy that entire 99 stack, people could buy what ever amount of your 99 stack they wanted! It was so useful! Since it wasn't a hindrance for someone to sell large stacks, people didn't have to undercut so much to sell them, which meant more players could sit down, make a lot of something, have them reliably sell, which actually made prices more reasonable since this nice system promoted more crafters/suppliers to sell things.

Also the anomynity of items being sold! Market trolls couldn't find out what items you were selling and ruin your business.

[Gula]

Nah, I like undercutting for one reason. It brings the cost of those items that have no business being 1000 times overpriced. There's reasonable and then there's where people go stupid. Like a level 10 ring should NOT be 45 mil. :/

This. You'll want to be paid for your efforts, plus the cost of crystals, the service and bonus for HQ. You went through the labor of leveling the job too. Reasonably, you should expect profit. But uh, I know for a fact a lv20 CRP recipe table should not be on the MB for 50k nor a glam item with easy to get materials be in the 100k+ zone.

People be greedy.

[Killersai]

By asking for a market system rework. That implies that something is either wrong or broken.

I want improvements. You're disagreeing with something nobody said. As i said before try writing something more intelligent next time.

[Killersai]

Ah, I remember the GTS. It was actually pretty good, it spanned all servers, and nothing was really overpriced, and prices stayed pretty stable, minus when an item was chosen to be merched by the community. If I wanted prayer pots for cheap, I could just set a lower buying price before I go to sleep, and wake up in the morning to find that I got some You wouldn't have to keep checking the MB for cheap prices like you have to with the MB system atm.

Atm, some mats can fluctuate quite a bit, and you can't check the price of something on all servers easily.
The GTS imo was actually better compared to the FFXIV market board, I remember how much I missed the GTS when I first started playing back in ARR.

Also, those who say FFXIV is player controlled? The GTS was player controlled also.

I think people disagreeing here have never experienced the GTS first-hand. It was so bloody good, knowing that what you craft had a certain, stable price, whereas the sell offers people did would give more power to the buyer, preventing stuff from being too overpriced, like some items are now in FFXIV.

The GTS system was honestly a better system. You could also put up a stack of 99 on the GTS, and instead of someone else being forced to buy that entire 99 stack, people could buy what ever amount of your 99 stack they wanted! It was so useful! Since it wasn't a hindrance for someone to sell large stacks, people didn't have to undercut so much to sell them, which meant more players could sit down, make a lot of something, have them reliably sell, which actually made prices more reasonable since this nice system promoted more crafters/suppliers to sell things.

Exactly this. Osrs's economy and market are famously good and the grand exchange is a big reason.

[FallenArisen0990]

Could always go back to XI's Market can you place a bid on the item that you think is worth the price.

[NessaWyvern]

Exactly this. Osrs's economy and market are famously good and the grand exchange is a big reason.

Aye, and if you wanted to go really hardcore with the market, OSRS had a page on their main site showing market trends of every item, so you knew what you were making had potential to sell for higher or lower, and you could do flipping more reliably.

It was just so bloody good! I can't stress it enough. The issues people in the threads say they have, and to not change it, would actually have their issues go away with the OSRS market method.

[Barraind]

tell me where i said the market system was broken pls

Perhaps the part where you say the entire system should be changed.

Its pretty obvious.



I'll stick with wanting GW2's market as a baseline for every mmo going forward, thanks.

[Killersai]

Perhaps the part where you say the entire system should be changed.

Its pretty obvious.



I'll stick with wanting GW2's market as a baseline for every mmo going forward, thanks.

wanting a better market doesnt mean this one is broken. it means others are better like OSRS's.