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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Buduga bois are the epitome of sexism. They flaunt their bodies to say, "Men are superior, the male form is strength." Now, I'm not saying this as a means of complaining nor trying to push an agenda. It's just fact. Roegadyn wear clothing that show off their muscles because muscles though. I don't think scantly clad bunny boys would be doing this for the same reasons.

    Many people seem to revel in fanservice but then are the first to point the finger because it's currently female only. And oh? Whatever happened to that female Hrothgar thread? Lost to the lifestream because it's quite blatant some people got tired of pretending to care.
    So you're saying that having men in revealing armor is apparently sexist, we shouldn't complain that only women and the female hrotgar thread got lost because nobody cares, which is completely false, and this thread tends to also include female hrotgar discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Doesn't sound like sexism, to me. Just an acknowledgement of the fact that the females are physically less imposing.




    Who seems more physically imposing?
    The first image is a woman, and the second is a man.
    Men are typically a bit more muscled than women, but what some ppl say its normal is the 1%< of men. Most men and women are just not physically imposing
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Men are typically a bit more muscled than women, but what some ppl say its normal is the 1%< of men. Most men and women are just not physically imposing
    No, they're not just a "bit" more muscled, they usually have closer to 40% more upper body strength than women on average - we're not even talking about the tail ends of the distribution, which men tend to cluster around more in due to how selective pressures work in our case. On nearly every measure that is combat-related, men are physically superior. You're taking some woman who is into body-sculpting, comparing her to some dude who isn't, and then trying to insinuate this is the situation the Xaela find themselves in, with their tiny women, and huge men. Forgive me if I find that a trifle silly.

    Moreover, even if there wasn't such a difference in physique, you'd have the issue of female child birthing and rearing acting as downtime in regards to how efficient it is to dedicate resources to training up a female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    No, they're not just a "bit" more muscled, they usually have closer to 40% more upper body strength than women on average - we're not even talking about the tail ends of the distribution, which mean tend to cluster more in due to how selective pressures work in our case. On nearly every measure that is combat-related, men are physically superior. You're taking some woman who is into body-sculpting, comparing her to some dude who isn't, and then trying to insinuate this is the situation the Xaela find themselves in, with their tiny women, and huge men. Forgive me if I find that a trifle silly.

    Moreover, even if there wasn't such a difference in physique, you'd have the issue of female child birthing and rearing acting as downtime in regards to how efficient it is to dedicate resources to training up a female.
    Ok, just how many men do u think are into body building or are that strong? Most men look like elezen, or even slimmer, unless you go to hollywood that is. Most women look like female elezen (with human proportions) and then, you'd be surprised to see how many woman are that, or more strong and how many men are that, or more weak. Then, this is simply a fantasy game. Do you think we'd have a race of giant children with moustaches and elf ears otherwise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Ok, just how many men do u think are into body building or are that strong? Most men look like elezen, or even slimmer, unless you go to hollywood that is. Most women look like female elezen (with human proportions) and then, you'd be surprised to see how many woman are that, or more strong and how many men are that, or more weak. Then, this is simply a fantasy game. Do you think we'd have a race of giant children with moustaches and elf ears otherwise?
    What even is your argument at this point? Even in this game, the most muscle developed female highlander has less biceps than a defined male midlander. The men are more muscular than the females - the only race that isn't like this is the chuffing potatoes.
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