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    It actually took me a little bit to think of this one really.

    Afflatus Misery has a ton of potential in dungeons and could be quite tasty if we get a chunky add phase in one of the new raids or trials.

    The rest of the WHM kit feels fairly subtle by comparison really. SCH will be quite the healing powerhouse and there's every chance I may even end up having to play it next tier. Not my preferred healer but the new kit will suit my play style. I'm still a bit apprehensive about AST.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    It actually took me a little bit to think of this one really.

    Afflatus Misery has a ton of potential in dungeons and could be quite tasty if we get a chunky add phase in one of the new raids or trials.

    The rest of the WHM kit feels fairly subtle by comparison really.
    I'm in this party. Afflatus Misery looks really awesome animation wise and I think will feel very satisfying. Honestly, Whm has always been the healer I was least interested in, and didn't even level it till 4.1. Now I wanna switch over to using is as my main healer, though I'm probably going to spend most of my time as Dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    It actually took me a little bit to think of this one really.

    Afflatus Misery has a ton of potential in dungeons and could be quite tasty if we get a chunky add phase in one of the new raids or trials.

    The rest of the WHM kit feels fairly subtle by comparison really. SCH will be quite the healing powerhouse and there's every chance I may even end up having to play it next tier. Not my preferred healer but the new kit will suit my play style. I'm still a bit apprehensive about AST.
    You do realize you can cast Holy 30 times in the time it takes to get the 3 lilies needed to nourish the blood lily to cast Afflatus Misery once. If I remember the tooltip right, Holy is now 180 potency with no drop off? That's 5400 potency compared to 900. Of course, you're unlikely to have the MP to cast holy 30 times, but it only takes 5 to equal the 900 potency of Misery plus Holy will stun which means your tank won't take as much damage while you're spamming it. I don't really see the potential in dungeons. And because of the time and GDC limitations, I really doubt it's going to make a whole lot of difference in the raid situation you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    You do realize you can cast Holy 30 times in the time it takes to get the 3 lilies needed to nourish the blood lily to cast Afflatus Misery once.
    Oh for sure. From that sort of perspective, it's only ever going to be a loss.

    That's not the best angle to take if you really want to push things though. Think outside the box, it'll be easy enough to generate Blood Lilies during the first two boss fights. Depending on how big the trash pulls between end up, there's a very real chance that it'll be quite a significant gain to simply stock up on Lilies to drop a pair of Miseries on the trash.

    Even Lilies were abusable in a similar manner in the likes of Ala Mhigo, squeezing out an extra couple of assizes on some of the particularly substantial pulls in the middle section of the run.
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    Gunther Frey
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    I'm looking forward to scholar in general. I would say the biggest thing is sacred soil being viable again. I've always loved using it and putting that big blue dome down.
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    AST new skills seem like fun and are quite pretty ^^
    I don't mind the card change so I'm ok with it.

    I really like the new dps rank from WHM and AST.
    I remember hating stone3 (that pesky screen blurr....) and Malefic2 in HW, so it's nice to enjoy the visual of your filler.

    What else.... The Afflatus spells seems great to use altough a bit underwhelming. Perhaps making them 1.5s recast would make things more spicy (okayt I know it's not good for weaving but still)

    Still no new LB3 animation for WHM and SCH.... #disapointed
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    Still no new LB3 animation for WHM and SCH.... #disapointed
    What's wrong with SCH's animation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    What's wrong with SCH's animation?
    It lacks .. "woomph", like you feel it's old.
    Same for the BLM and SMN
    The problem isn't coming from the design, per just the visual.

    The meteor visual is old and looks cheap. (Mostly because most of the visual is "up" when you're looking "down") The Meteor animation tend to enter your camera so you see a part of the rock (like walking through a roof when you see both outside and inside)
    SMN one feels bleh, like Arkmorn is shinnier than the 3 spark you shoot. (The wings are cool tho)

    For sch it's just, we're summoning Seraph but beside a pulsing aura nothing else happens. And also, the fact that we can now have Seraph in battle makes the whole "I summon Seraph for a lb3 heal" a bit... underwhelming. Seraph used to be a big thing, it's a 2min cd (makes sens we're getting stronger), same could be said for SMN, we used to get bahamut like wings and shoot one of his signature move. Well now we have freaking Bahamut and Pheonix shooting Arkmorn and Revelation every 2min... I dunno.
    My generic skills feel stronger (visually) than my LB3.

    When the AST does LB3 i mean, that's something, when the RDM use LB3, it's like Vermillion havock-quack-inferno

    (I'll refrain from commenting paladin LB3...)

    So that's why, I'm not sure I explained my feeling adequatly but that's the gist of it. It just looks like a generic heal now and some of our skill actually look more powerful.
    I'm not asking for AST style retina-burning LB3 but... just something that look strongr than my CD.
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    Teah Bloodwrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    You do realize you can cast Holy 30 times in the time it takes to get the 3 lilies needed to nourish the blood lily to cast Afflatus Misery once. If I remember the tooltip right, Holy is now 180 potency with no drop off? That's 5400 potency compared to 900. Of course, you're unlikely to have the MP to cast holy 30 times, but it only takes 5 to equal the 900 potency of Misery plus Holy will stun which means your tank won't take as much damage while you're spamming it. I don't really see the potential in dungeons. And because of the time and GDC limitations, I really doubt it's going to make a whole lot of difference in the raid situation you mentioned.
    Why are you feeding words into their mouth? I don't think she said she'd go out of her way to get misery to pop, my assumption is if she gets it from healing she'd just save it for said add phase.
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