Scholar notes from E3 build - Titania Fight

[Yuyuka3]

I mean the trust healer bots even deal dmg so should tell you what square thinks about that

I laughed so hard seeing that last night, but it was not a happy laugh. So healer DPS is not taken into consideration? Healers are supposed to heal and nothing else? Then why, pray tell, do your own friggin NPCs you give us for dungeons play exactly like any halfway competent healer does? Throwing out DPS whenever possible? How does that mesh with 'healers should heal' at all? Because I seriously fail to see how that is.

[Bastionus]

Well to be fair, isn't this basically just Titania Story Mode? The real test is going to be EX @ 80.

Yea but what about players who don't do EX? I get for EX healing may be needed but for the others who don't then healer may be just...boring?

[Bastionus]

Also Astrologian had MP issues? *groans* What are we supposed to do with that?

[Ilenya]

Also Astrologian had MP issues? *groans* What are we supposed to do with that?

Yeah, that's something I'm wondering about. WHM has Assize and Thin Air, SCH still have Aetherflow, and AST has...Nothing unique to help. Kinda wondering if that was intentional for some reason, or if they just forgot.

[Ceasaria]

Yeah, that's something I'm wondering about. WHM has Assize and Thin Air, SCH still have Aetherflow, and AST has...Nothing unique to help. Kinda wondering if that was intentional for some reason, or if they just forgot.

Lightspeed.

[Ilenya]

Lightspeed.

I stand corrected. I forgot that was even a thing. Is it enough to really help, though?

[Ghishlain]

Yeah, that's something I'm wondering about. WHM has Assize and Thin Air, SCH still have Aetherflow, and AST has...Nothing unique to help. Kinda wondering if that was intentional for some reason, or if they just forgot.

Adding to Cesasaria's answer above, AST healing spells costed approximately 10% less MP than the equivalent spell in the WHM kit in Stormsblood / Heavensward.

This has been maintained in Shadowbringer for the following:
Benefic II versus Cure II (900 MP vs 1,000MP)
Helios versus Medica (900 MP vs 1,000MP)
Aspected Helios versus Medica II (1,200MP vs 1,300MP)

Also note that Helios has 10% more potency than Medica (330 potency vs 300 potency), though Aspected Helios is 100 potency weaker than Medica II (600 potency vs 700 potency). Also a minor note that though Diurnal Aspected Benefic and Regen both maintain the same cost and total potency / GCD, because Aspect Benefic has an initial application it actually heals faster than Regen.

Funny enough, they also reversed the MP costs for Gravity and Holy. IE, Gravity is a cheaper spell than Holy in the current iteration. In Shadowbringers, Gravity will actually do less potency and cost more MP than Holy (130 potency @ 700MP vs 140 potency @ 600MP). Admittedly, AoE MP costs mean less in a raid scenario.

[EDIT] Also, Lucid being a one minute CD now will help everyone out, as it looks to be 500MP a tick so that 3,500MP / minute if it maintains the 21s duration which is 35% of our total MP. It'll be difficult to say how much MP we healers will be consuming per fight until we see the content released and experience it ourselves.

[EDIT2] Also I personally wouldn't mind if AST and SCH both had MP issues in Savage / Ultimate content. It would put more weight in the WHM's MP kit that they have acquired over these years.

[Ilenya]

[EDIT2] Also I personally wouldn't mind if AST and SCH both had MP issues in Savage / Ultimate content. It would put more weight in the WHM's MP kit that they have acquired over these years.

I have nothing against that being WHM's niche, so to speak, but at the same time AST/SCH can't be so bad MP-wise that they can't finish long fights. It'll be interesting to see where things go, though I believe SCH has a lot more OCD MP free heals to play with, especially with the AoE off the Fey Gauge, weird as it will be to build that up.

[Deceptus]

[EDIT2] Also I personally wouldn't mind if AST and SCH both had MP issues in Savage / Ultimate content. It would put more weight in the WHM's MP kit that they have acquired over these years.

While I can respect everything else you wrote up, wishing QoL issues on other jobs is just selfish. No caster job should be MP starved.

[Kabooa]

While I can respect everything else you wrote up, wishing QoL issues on other jobs is just selfish. No caster job should be MP starved.

If MP isn't a resource, then it should be removed.

If a resource has no threat of running out, then it isn't a resource.

Hypothetically speaking, would it be so bad that "Knowing when to DPS" also included whether or not you had the MP to spare for it?