Glamour dresser getting an update

[Lumadurin]

Only 5 more? 15 isn't even enough to cover all the current classes. Absolute minimum there should be as many plates as there are classes/jobs.

Not to defend the low number, but 15 is actually enough to make it so that every DoW sans Blue Mage (lol) has a unique glamour.
Consider that NIN and DRG have exclusive armor sets and thus will not compete for a glamour slot. And BLU doesn't need a plate because it's a dead job that uses outdated caster gear and thus will also not be competing for a glamour slot. So you can glamour all three of these the old-fashioned way.
PLD, WAR, DRK, GNB
MNK, SAM
BRD, MCH, DNC
SMN, BLM, RDM
AST, WHM, SCH
Total: 15

Prior to this you ran into an issue because 13 jobs "required" a plate (unless you're boring and use the same glam for every job within a role - or worse, every job outright), but we only had 10 available.

[Nihility]

I don't know programmer speak so well but they basically said the old 1.x coding they had to build on originally is so messed up they try to make all new content modular so it doesn't have to deal with it and anything that does like inventory is a nightmare

Also worth noting if you did play 1.x back in the day it really was that bad. simple stuff like toggling a cross class skill in the menus might make the game hang up for 15s or so

[Kalise]

Not to defend the low number, but 15 is actually enough to make it so that every DoW sans Blue Mage (lol) has a unique glamour.
Consider that NIN and DRG have exclusive armor sets and thus will not compete for a glamour slot. And BLU doesn't need a plate because it's a dead job that uses outdated caster gear and thus will also not be competing for a glamour slot. So you can glamour all three of these the old-fashioned way.
PLD, WAR, DRK, GNB
MNK, SAM
BRD, MCH, DNC
SMN, BLM, RDM
AST, WHM, SCH
Total: 15

Prior to this you ran into an issue because 13 jobs "required" a plate (unless you're boring and use the same glam for every job within a role - or worse, every job outright), but we only had 10 available.

Well... NIN/DRG would count because if you upgrade your gear, it's a lot easier to just activate a plate rather than go hunt down all the unique pieces of gear you need to re-apply the glamour manually...

Also:

Alchemist
Armourer
Blacksmith
Carpenter
Culinarian
Goldsmith
Leatherworker
Weaver

Botanist
Fisher
Miner

Would like to speak with you.

There will be 28 unique jobs (Not including BLU) in 5.0.

Only 15 glamour plates is nowhere near close to having one for each class/job.

400 items in Dresser also is not a lot either... Especially with the amount of stuff that inexplicably cannot go into the armoire *Cough*AF Sets for level 60/70*Cough*MSQ Glamour clothes*Cough*Beast Tribe Glamour*Cough*Eureka Glamour*Cough*

Also, I'm still hoping that they make glamour tied to the equipment SET rather than the equipment itself. So that you can use the same piece of equipment across multiple sets with different glamours on each - As opposed to having to reglamour/dye each shared item whenever you switch sets (Even more so if you have to manually do it and get errors surrounding stacked glamours...)

Which would help alleviate the need for more plates as you could just set up your 40 available equipment sets slots to allow for each class/job to have their own, as well as having some spare to make alternate appearances for certain classes...

[Iscah]

Also, I'm still hoping that they make glamour tied to the equipment SET rather than the equipment itself. So that you can use the same piece of equipment across multiple sets with different glamours on each - As opposed to having to reglamour/dye each shared item whenever you switch sets (Even more so if you have to manually do it and get errors surrounding stacked glamours...)

That comes down to rewriting how the game handles glamours, and where it needs to look to know how to display your character's appearance. Right now it essentially has a "fixed gaze" on reading the information in the glamour slot on each gear piece. The plate system is designed not to disrupt that - it's just a quicker way of editing the information stored in that specified location.

It seems quite possible that changing that location would come under the core coding that they don't like to tinker with.

[Kalise]

That comes down to rewriting how the game handles glamours, and where it needs to look to know how to display your character's appearance. Right now it essentially has a "fixed gaze" on reading the information in the glamour slot on each gear piece. The plate system is designed not to disrupt that - it's just a quicker way of editing the information stored in that specified location.

It seems quite possible that changing that location would come under the core coding that they don't like to tinker with.

Though, at the same time, equipment sets already look at the glamour information. Since they will notify you if an item that you have saved to them with has a different appearance when you re-equip the set (Usually giving an error like "Could not change glamour") even going so far as to find a suitable replacement if you don't have the originally saved item (I once had 2 pairs of a pair of boots, sold the wrong pair and when I tried to equip the set it prompted me that the second pair of boots was a different colour)

So, from an outside perspective, it doesn't seem like it would be too much of a stretch to just have the equipment set be where the glamour is stored, not the specific item. The only tricky part would be the whole selecting a manual glamour stems from an item, not an equipment slot.

Even still, if it does require some more code tinkering, I hope they do it at some point, as it would be way more convenient than waiting until they give us 28+ Glamour Plates and only ever being able to properly change classes in a city so as to be able to apply a class specific glamour plate - Especially with so many classes sharing gear (Notably, Crafters all use the same BiS gear outside of tools)

[Lumadurin]

Also:
[DoH & DoL]
Would like to speak with you.

[...] so that every DoW sans Blue Mage [...]

(forgot to mention DoM)
Do you really think I'm not aware of Crafters/Gatherers?

And you don't switch out gear for jobs all that often except for when leveling. So it's not a huge hassle to glamour things the old way in that sense.
If you're using rare dyes, then dye the glamour item rather than the gear you wear.

[Brightamethyst]

A while ago, one of the programmers posted an explanation of how complex it actually was to give us expansions to the main inventory. If everything else is similarly difficult, then I wouldn't be surprised if they actually want to give us thirty plates and a thousand storage spaces but simply can't.

Don't get get me wrong. I'll gladly take any more plates/dresser space they can give us and I absolutely understand how hard it probably is for the devs, given the crazy way inventory works in this game. On the other hand, understanding why we're only getting five more plates that doesn't make it any less disappointing.

[linay]

People are allowed to be disappointed in a meager offering that was highly anticipated and offered complete in other MMO's of lesser quality.

And I think that's the point. It's a trade off. Saying some F2P MMO does glamour better than FFXIV means nothing if many of its other features are worse than FFXIV.

And personally, I'd rather take FFXIV's limited glamour system if it means every update is an increase in storage space rather than the alternative of only capturing the image without being able to store the items.

[Alleo]

I don't think you should play MMORPGs. this type of game is known for requiring constant updating. Maybe complete single player games are more your style?

I played enough MMOs over the years so no need to post such a sentence. I am not talking about updates itself, I am talking about a system that is only released half baked and that need changes in the future to make it better. Thats just more time and budget that is going into such a change that could have been used for something else. Why not simply have something from the start that just functions completely right from the beginning? I just dont like to be a beta tester for them.

[Edax]

Why not simply have something from the start that just functions completely right from the beginning? I just dont like to be a beta tester for them.

Economics. If everything is finished but a few elements, you still have to pay for the entire staff even if half of them no longer have any work to do. So instead they release it unfinished and try and fix it later.