Shadowbringer: Summoner Changes Discussion

[remiff]

How did you find that out? The tooltip was exactly the same for Enhanced Ruin II in the media tour as on live.

From E3 in the titania pov ''
i dont know if is a bug,
but in the vid '' egi auto-attack dont proc ruin IV anymore .
got 0 ruin IV in all fight .

[Kurando]

I think the confusion is Titania is a lvl 73 trial, but the trait to get guaranteed Ruin IV procs is level 74 (when you use an Egi action). Otherwise under this level it's just a 15% chance like it is now, which isn't so high but I didn't watch the video so no idea how the SMN was playing exactly.

[remiff]

before it was on action and auto attack '' trait 15% chance '',
on titania pet auto dont proc anything .
and from mediatour tooltip the trait work on egi auto attack .

[Kurando]

Not sure you read what I said, the trial was level 73, the trait for guaranted Ruin proc is level 74 hence it was not available for use in the video. As for 15% well that's just RNG, you either get a proc or you don't, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Besides the fight was altered for the audience anyway so it may not reflect everything once the expac goes live.

[Gallus]

Wait so we get Ruin IV procs with a 15% chance on Egis autos on top of the guaranteed ones from the Egi Assaults? That seems like a monstrous amount of Ruin IV stacking. Which leads me to the next question...how many charges of Ruin IV can we stack...?

[Darkstride]

Wait so we get Ruin IV procs with a 15% chance on Egis autos on top of the guaranteed ones from the Egi Assaults? That seems like a monstrous amount of Ruin IV stacking. Which leads me to the next question...how many charges of Ruin IV can we stack...?

It appears to be 4 stacks.

[remiff]

i speak about the lvl 62 actual trait '' enhanced ruin II still in the game in the media tour tooltip,
in the video of larryzaur we can see ruin IV proc from egi auto attack' not from egi assault abilities,
i know we get a new trait lvl 74 for proc ruin IV 100% chance when we use egi assault .
But from the video of titania ''enhanced ruin II trait dont proc anymore on pet auto attaque,
1 ruin IV in entire 6 min video .
Maybe is a bug, or they have change the old trait '' 15% chance on egi assault abilities '' .

[ObsidianFire]

We see only one Ruin IV proc in that entire fight. And it seems to happen only after the SMN uses an Egi Assault ability. Then the SMN doesn't use any Egi Assault abilities for the rest of the fight and we see no Ruin IV procs.

I think it's safe to say something did change from the Media Tour build to the E3 build with Ruin IV procs, but until the game lands, it's hard to say if it is a bug or if it is on purpose.

[Dyvid]

We see only one Ruin IV proc in that entire fight. And it seems to happen only after the SMN uses an Egi Assault ability. Then the SMN doesn't use any Egi Assault abilities for the rest of the fight and we see no Ruin IV procs.

I think it's safe to say something did change from the Media Tour build to the E3 build with Ruin IV procs, but until the game lands, it's hard to say if it is a bug or if it is on purpose.

Except the Enhanced Egi Assault isn't until 74, that would have to be the normal 15% proc.

Enhanced Egi Assault procs Ruin IV @ 100% of the time with Egi Assault, Lv. 74 trait
Enhanced Ruin II procs Ruin IV @ 15% with pet action lv. 62 trait

[Len]

Except the Enhanced Egi Assault isn't until 74, that would have to be the normal 15% proc.

Enhanced Egi Assault procs Ruin IV @ 100% of the time with Egi Assault, Lv. 74 trait
Enhanced Ruin II procs Ruin IV @ 15% with pet action lv. 62 trait

15% is low, but not low enough to only proc Further Ruin a single time in 6 minutes.

For anyone unfamiliar, this is the video we're referencing: TITANIA E3 SHADOWBRINGERS (NO CLEAR)

Further Ruin procs a single time at 0:24 and then never again for the rest of the fight.