We are in need of a official response to the healer situation

[LariaKirin]

Maybe, but from a PR standpoint the game is getting absolutely shit on across a number of boards b/c of these unpopular, regrettable 5.0 changes. You'd think they would have the imagination to foresee how bad these changes were and come up with something better before unveiling them to the public, but I mean--I guess not.

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

[Laphael]

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

[reyre]

See why they made these changes. What caused it, what can be the future of it. And do it with an open mind. Don't just scream homogenization or whatever other buzzword has been floating around. Really try to put yourself in their shoes. If you were a developer and you had to make all of these jobs accessible to ALL types of players.. from the most casual to the most hardcore.. what would you have done differently. how would you balance it amongst each of the other healers and against all of the other roles. Come up with solutions not complaints. VIABLE solutions that don't just cater to one crowd but everyone.

Well if i were to put myself in their shoes, i would not try to make jobs accessible to every player. That seems to be a poor desing choice, one that is impossible to fufill and one that delivers mediocrity. So i would not havedone that for starters, besides the game suffers from a severe issue that has nothing to do with the jobs themselves, it is to randomly desing after a point, they added a pletora of options on how to tackle the battle content, but the battle content itself doesnt support it, let me put an example why is it that SCH or AST are more desiered in parties? is it because their themes? or their incredible healing ability? The game itself its designed to preffer dps over everything, not a bad idea on itself but limits severly other aproaches to any given encounter.

It seems, to me, that they dont create content allowing the player the "freedom" to explore and maximize the skill set of its job/class: Jobs>content. But they do it the other way around Content>jobs, this is not a wrong aproach however is a limiting one, simply because you dont have static jobs, so as the jobs "grow, change or evolve" the content should do the same, however it does not the content and the demands of said content remain the same, but the jobs change. Inherently this would make 2 outcomes posible either the content is easier or harder (different degrees of each) but like you said they wanted to make their classes, and by extention the content, accesible to all types of players, so automatically it cant be harder. the jobs will continue to grow easier, because the content wont change but the clasess will and since they want everyone to have access to all jobs... well you get the point the devs have gotten themselves to the point were they are, the lack of new ways to tackle content (as a core issue) cannot be fixed with just changin a skill, that will simply return it to aprevious state not a dressing the problem. We are 3 expantions in and what worked in 2.x cannot work on 5.x, because the clasess have changed, but the content have had little to no change.

So if i were a dev that would be Job number one, i mean why do you think BLU failed, the class was different enough but the content was (and is still) not there for it. (I mean this is one of the pletora of reasons why BLU failed)

[Truen]

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

The changes are why the majority of people are complaining. It's not boredom, it's bogus design choices.

[reyre]

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

You are complaining and whinining, it also seems that you have been doing it all day long, so congrats you used yourself as a live example.

[reyre]

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

Why do you think it has anything to do with wininnig? Do you think that is the mindset that a most players have "I win i was right"? that tells me more about you than your point.

[Laphael]

You are complaining and whinining, it also seems that you have been doing it all day long, so congrats you used yourself as a live example.

Well you know, im at work and have nothing else to do. Thats fine XD.
When i get home i will play and enjoy my favorite game.
And if healers are boring in SHB i will give calm feedback to SE and just play another job.
I did the same in SB with SCH. I didn´t like it and switched to AST. After they gave back Miasma II i went back to SCH.

[SaberMaxwell]

Complete Exaggerations make every argument bad.
I was reading many Eureka posts and nobody said anything about waiting.
And "wait till 80" is not the same as wait forever, its only 3 weeks.

Nobody said "Wait until Eureka comes out"? Nobody said "Wait until you're level 20, you just don't know what the endgame of Eureka is like"? You sure about that?

Sure, wait till 80 isn't the same as wait forever. But the goalpost will shift again. It always does.

[Cyrocco]

Nobody said "Wait until Eureka comes out"? Nobody said "Wait until you're level 20, you just don't know what the endgame of Eureka is like"? You sure about that?

Sure, wait till 80 isn't the same as wait forever. But the goalpost will shift again. It always does.

"Wait until level 80."

"Well you don't have all the healers capped."

"Well your iLvl is too low."

"Wait until Extreme."

"Wait until Savage raids."

"Wait until the 24-man is finished."

"You don't even have you Relic."

"Wait until 5.5."

And we repeat this for 6.0

[Laphael]

"Wait until level 80."

"Well you don't have all the healers capped."

"Well your iLvl is too low."

"Wait until Extreme."

"Wait until Savage raids."

"Wait until the 24-man is finished."

"You don't even have you Relic."

"Wait until 5.5."

And we repeat this for 6.0

Those make no sense:
"Well you don't have all the healers capped."
"Well your iLvl is too low."
"Wait until the 24-man is finished."
"You don't even have you Relic."
"Wait until 5.5."

The others are common sense.