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  1. #71
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I'm becoming convinced that if we get any more of these threads there'll be a primal summoning of an angry White Mage throwing stones at people
    That actually sounds like a fun primal concept.
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  2. #72
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    Videra Svenay
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    Warrior Lv 83
    I just want HW Scholar back.
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  3. #73
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Want to do everything, but my inventory is full...
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  4. #74
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    truthfully nobody wants to be a full on healer as it's boring and quite frankly just not fun.
    spent years playing a healer in guild Wars. Spent years playing a raid healer in wow. Spent years playing a meatshield tank in EQ and then wow.


    To say they arent fun and nobody wants to play them is ignorant.

    Not that I expected anything more from the OP, who seems to only make asinine threads on topics he has no idea wtf hes talking about.
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  5. #75
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    To say they arent fun and nobody wants to play them is ignorant.
    Though hard to argue that the Healer options in FFXIV isn't poor... They have been so sceptical about going away from the basic healing mold that we are stuck with 3 nearly identical healers.
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  6. #76
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Though hard to argue that the Healer options in FFXIV isn't poor... They have been so sceptical about going away from the basic healing mold that we are stuck with 3 nearly identical healers.
    I'm sorry but I struggle to see how this is the case now or will be in ShB. Sure all healers have some things in common, but this is for the sake of practicality. There are some base requirements any decent healer should have. But the three still have unique frequently used mechanics that are presently entirely distinct to them and even more so in ShB. Other than the selection of dps spells, I'm not seeing a serious case of over-homogenisation in the healers.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 06-13-2019 at 05:10 AM. Reason: phrasing

  7. #77
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    People do love to play healer but truthfully nobody wants to be a full on healer as it's boring and quite frankly just not fun.
    That wholly depends on your definition of fun however. I don't mind full healer or dps/heals. Both can be alot of fun.
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

  8. #78
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    I mean yea you have people that love the healing class as a general concept. A holy centric magician that can utilize the power of light to slay the enemies and rejuvenate the health of allies.

    People do love to play healer but truthfully nobody wants to be a full on healer as it's boring and quite frankly just not fun. It's the same situation with Tanks if all you are is just a meat shield then you may as well be a puppet with 2 buttons.

    This whole closed minded notion that "Healers only heal" and "Tanks stop doing damage leave it to DPS" is just absurd. Everybody is equal and important to the task at hand in some way shape or form and not everyone has to be one trick ponies when they dont have to.

    With Shadowbringers coming up, I couldnt be more excited, but the White Mage changes are just especially heinous. The fact of the matter is you are removing OPTIONS in combat which is something you should never do regardless of the state of the game.

    How do you go from a game like Final Fantasy XI where you had spells as far as the eye can see on top of the spells you obtain from your sub class usually black magic or scholar if you were a wiz kid, to now where the healer ONLY heals.

    XI- Cure I II III IV V Protect Shell Blink Stoneskin Aquaveil all the Bar and En elemental buff spells Banish I II III IV V Holy Dia Diaga Diaga II Sneak Invisible Deoderize
    And so many others

    XIV- Protect.....Cure I, II, III, Holy....yea that's about it.

    And now were getting protect removed in favor of Dia which was always traditionally a lvl 1 spell now it's a max lvl spell explain that one to me.

    Bottom line- nobody likes it when they have options taken away from them. Why do you think people enjoyed classic Wow so much? Because classes back then didnt limit you in silly ways you could make yourself whatever you wanted to back them and have skills/spells up the wazoo.
    I dont know what you're on about Mate I love healing I dont care what path healing takes as long as I can still heal if I'm not doing alot of DPS or if my toolkit changes I still lve healing its literally the only class I can stay awake doing. I dont care what you say but stop trying to speak for everyone.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  9. #79
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    JWag12787's Avatar
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    Kaiya Nakamura
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I take offense good sir! I love to heal!
    It's also fun to cast an occasional Aero or Holy out there when we're outgunned, but having the fate of the party in my hands is exhilarating.
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  10. #80
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    Loki Larentia
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I'd say it's subjective and you're not considering SOME other people simply do not have this view. I have mained SCH since launch and I enjoy healing. I mean.. it's my thing, it's what I like doing; does this mean I'm wrong and what I like doing is wrong? No, i'd say it does not, and that's okay. We all make this work together!
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