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    Waiting on Primal Jesus to make an entrance so we can CRUSH him and his followers like we do with Gods from many many other religions.

    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history and even nearly any hot topic in the news today which is always "something something should be outlawed, so and so shouldn't have rights to..., something something cause my christian values something something"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Waiting on Primal Jesus to make an entrance so we can CRUSH him and his followers like we do with Gods from many many other religions.

    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history and even nearly any hot topic in the news today which is always "something something should be outlawed, so and so shouldn't have rights to..., something something cause my christian values something something"
    This exactly!....Hypocrisy is rife within devout Christian communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    This exactly!....Hypocrisy is rife within devout Christian communities.
    That is sort of silly to say. Since all humanity is rife with hypocrisy. Noone is immune to it. Noone is above it. That is more a flaw with humans than it is with any specific organization, religion, or group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezzoforte View Post
    That is sort of silly to say. Since all humanity is rife with hypocrisy. Noone is immune to it. Noone is above it. That is more a flaw with humans than it is with any specific organization, religion, or group.
    True. But the difference being in (using all the reference points I have) almost all Christians I have encountered have put themselves on a moral high horse....acting like their farts smell of roses...when in reality they literally picket Pride events, try to prevent equal rights, try to control what women do with their bodies, openly disrespect other religions by claiming their faith is false...yet literally none of these groups asked them to interfere with their lives....yet they're happy to play the victim once they are punished (and rightly so) for their attempts to control peoples lives, where they have no such authority to....

    So I disagree, it is not silly. It's simple truth.....I will however admit that other religions are just as guilty of this, so it's more accurate for me to say religious groups as a whole tend to show hypocrisy more than other communities, from my experience. Also of course not every person of faith is like that...but then again not every person is so consistently hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history
    I'm just gonna leave this here.

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    I'm just gonna leave this here.

    Wait......the Knights Templar had rocket launchers?!.....damn son. Them poor witches
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Waiting on Primal Jesus to make an entrance so we can CRUSH him and his followers like we do with Gods from many many other religions.

    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history and even nearly any hot topic in the news today which is always "something something should be outlawed, so and so shouldn't have rights to..., something something cause my christian values something something"
    I feel obligated to share this.

    https://youtu.be/NrN_paMEKhE?t=1016
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Waiting on Primal Jesus to make an entrance so we can CRUSH him and his followers like we do with Gods from many many other religions.

    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history and even nearly any hot topic in the news today which is always "something something should be outlawed, so and so shouldn't have rights to..., something something cause my christian values something something"
    To be fair, and saying this as an agnostic/atheist, in some parts of the world Christians are still being persecuted. The recent Easter Sri Lankan bombings, for example. Not sure if its something to be amused about :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    To be fair, and saying this as an agnostic/atheist, in some parts of the world Christians are still being persecuted. The recent Easter Sri Lankan bombings, for example. Not sure if its something to be amused about :/
    I don't think they mean globally. I may be wrong, but I think they're talking about uses of the term similar to the annual Fox News report about the war on Christmas. Stores have been changing their seasonal messages from "Merry Christmas" to "Happy Holidays" in an effort to be more inclusive. Somehow this is supposed to translate to persecution of Christians. I am well-acquainted with this annual report because it riles my father-in-law up to no end, ironically making him very unpleasant to be around when I take the kids down for Christmas. The OP in this thread also frivolously interprets the term. I agree that persecution of any group is a serious problem that should be taken seriously, but I, too, am amused when people make frivolous claims. I agree that the bombings to which you refer as well as recent actions against Christians taken by various African governments are legitimate examples of persecution. As such, they are no laughing matter. Those are a far cry, however, from the presence of zealots in a fantasy game who resemble medieval church-sponsored institutions. Most Americans, when they claim domestic persecution of Christians, have no basis for the complaint. 75% of Americans are Christians. It's kind of hard to persecute a group that is a majority in terms of population, wealth, and political power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I don't think they mean globally. I may be wrong, but I think they're talking about uses of the term similar to the annual Fox News report about the war on Christmas. Stores have been changing their seasonal messages from "Merry Christmas" to "Happy Holidays" in an effort to be more inclusive. Somehow this is supposed to translate to persecution of Christians. I am well-acquainted with this annual report because it riles my father-in-law up to no end, ironically making him very unpleasant to be around when I take the kids down for Christmas. The OP in this thread also frivolously interprets the term. I agree that persecution of any group is a serious problem that should be taken seriously, but I, too, am amused when people make frivolous claims. I agree that the bombings to which you refer as well as recent actions against Christians taken by various African governments are legitimate examples of persecution. As such, they are no laughing matter. Those are a far cry, however, from the presence of zealots in a fantasy game who resemble medieval church-sponsored institutions. Most Americans, when they claim domestic persecution of Christians, have no basis for the complaint. 75% of Americans are Christians. It's kind of hard to persecute a group that is a majority in terms of population, wealth, and political power.
    To play devil's advocate here, wouldnt blanket statements about groups that actively dismiss their concerns as "frivolous" generally be considered a form of persecution? This is like saying "Youre the majority, therefore by virtue of that, you have no right to complain and you cannot be persecuted."

    To show a different perspective with the same thought process, this would be saying you cant be racist towards whites on the simple basis theyre the majority in the western countries generally. The only way this argument works is if you make racial groups a monolith, rather than treating incidences and people as individuals.

    At the individual level, people can persecute others by faith in individual acts.
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