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    Is anyone else getting the feeling

    Redacted the thread
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    Last edited by Izanagi_Fiaresu; 06-13-2019 at 02:35 AM. Reason: Got my answer!

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    Final Fantasy has always had beef with blind faith and generally following an ideology without thinking about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Final Fantasy has always had beef with blind faith and generally following an ideology without thinking about it.
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    You and your religion aren’t victims here. Let’s remember that this is a game, shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    You and your religion aren’t victims here. Let’s remember that this is a game, shall we?
    yes it is a video game. dont worry about finding true love, meta, friends or religion. just play escape the world and when you log off go back to your reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    You are overthinking it too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    Although the visual elements of the Sin Eaters take some inspiration of Christian, Islamic and Jewish religious figures...not one of them is actually a representation of said figures. For example those holy lions we fight are not the Lion of Judah, nor are they made out to be. The lore for 5.0 is not a commentary on anti-religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    Its a video game who the f**k cares? :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    Holiness, neither light does not represent Christianity.
    Hydaelyn is not Jesus, nor she is Maria.
    SE does not use Crucifix anywhere in their new story.
    Also light could be interpreted by people of other religions as their own, in Islam God is literally light/sun and etc.
    Light is not exclusive to Christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Can't they use other religions as symbolism? I mean it is pretty anti christian first the HW story and now the Holiness being evil
    In my perspective the trailer of the game does leave that question in open "become what you must" but doesn't mean you need to play a Warrior of Darkness after MSQ, those players with a backbone won't change their moral standards or religion just because of the MSQ worry nor it won't make a scratch.

    You will only perceive in the character perspective it is not about your real life, or personal path much less about your religion but about the character's journey/evolution.

    As far as I understood the MSQ is not about the Holiness, much less about Christianity or any variant but His Angels and those have no agenda but His.

    But if you speak with someone that knows the madness of Solomon they will clarify you better about the trailer and this feels about it.

    You saw the Angels painted in the wall the black, gray and white wings and the symbolism guess is self-explanatory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post

    If you have valid criticisms, then maybe you should consider how you phrase things, because from my perspective, your framing and dialogue isnt coming across as criticism but as vitriol and scorn. Particularly when you rely on the "Theyre powerful and do terrible things, therefore its super okay to dismiss the individuals concern or perspective on something." as justification.
    Yet the problem is exactly what Anima said she isn't lying and they did terrible things over lies as excuses to their crimes.
    It's not a criticism Anima is being factual even.
    They are not different from criminals who should be the real persecuted.
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