Crafting and Gathering need a QoL change asap.

[Sanctify]

Why be like every other game when this is its own game and has its own systems. Not every single freaking piece of content or system has to be just like every other boring generic game thats out.

Because the "all or nothing" of having to level all crafts to be good in any is soooooo engaging and fun lol. Crafting is insane in this game and I have to wonder if the people who defend the system do anything besides craft lol. The shit needs toned down and made more easily accessible to everyone.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Because the "all or nothing" of having to level all crafts to be good in any is soooooo engaging and fun lol. Crafting is insane in this game and I have to wonder if the people who defend the system do anything besides craft lol. The shit needs toned down and made more easily accessible to everyone.

I have all my crafters at 70, hate leveling them with a passion, but i dont think it should change. There are people who like crafting.

That'd be like saying that every dungeon should be savage level, because some people like hard content. or the entire game should be easy as heck, cuz other people like easy stuff.

[savageink]

Because the "all or nothing" of having to level all crafts to be good in any is soooooo engaging and fun lol. Crafting is insane in this game and I have to wonder if the people who defend the system do anything besides craft lol. The shit needs toned down and made more easily accessible to everyone.

My take on FFXIV is that there are so many activities that you don't need to focus on all of them. If you don't enjoy the crafting game you don't have to do it. It certainly doesn't stop you from progressing your story or make gearing harder. You can play triple triad or majong or run chocobo races. You can PVP or play Rival Wings or that minion game. I don't think every activity in here is intended for every audience member. So, I mess with crafting only minimally, I don't feel any deep pit in my heart because it's not my thing. If they rework it to remove interdependencies it would be inline with what they did for combat classes, but I don't think it would really affect me too much.

[Windsun33]

Because the "all or nothing" of having to level all crafts to be good in any is soooooo engaging and fun lol. Crafting is insane in this game and I have to wonder if the people who defend the system do anything besides craft lol. The shit needs toned down and made more easily accessible to everyone.

While you and some other might think that is a good idea - from my experience in other games I can assure you it is not. What ends up happening is that crafted gear and mats are so easy that they essentially become worthless and not worth the effort to make or try and sell. Kind of like in real life trying to sell your skills at walking and chewing gum at the same time.

[Vitallian]

While you and some other might think that is a good idea - from my experience in other games I can assure you it is not. What ends up happening is that crafted gear and mats are so easy that they essentially become worthless and not worth the effort to make or try and sell. Kind of like in real life trying to sell your skills at walking and chewing gum at the same time.

Because those things aren't actually worth anything to begin with. That's why so many people got in a tizzy with world visit because their little monopolies were in danger of being made nothing. That's the problem though, things are too expensive and everyone thinks things should sell for way more than the time or effort put into this is worth, and the reason they are expensive is because there isn't enough competition to shove down prices. And people hate competition so they are all for not improving things so more people will want to do something. It's greed. Ya'll can call me greedy for wanting everyone to not get pissed at crafting but the real reason is you guys just want to keep prices high and keep making money. Nothing is worth as much as you yourself think it is.

[Sothis]

Because those things aren't actually worth anything to begin with. That's why so many people got in a tizzy with world visit because their little monopolies were in danger of being made nothing. That's the problem though, things are too expensive and everyone thinks things should sell for way more than the time or effort put into this is worth, and the reason they are expensive is because there isn't enough competition to shove down prices. And people hate competition so they are all for not improving things so more people will want to do something. It's greed. Ya'll can call me greedy for wanting everyone to not get pissed at crafting but the real reason is you guys just want to keep prices high and keep making money. Nothing is worth as much as you yourself think it is.

"Things people make aren't worth the effort/cost ratio" but also "crafting requires way too much effort and should be made easier/simpler"??

You're still not saying what you want crafting to be, OP. Push button, receive stuff, make profit? Nah, hard pass.

[Windsun33]

Because those things aren't actually worth anything to begin with. That's why so many people got in a tizzy with world visit because their little monopolies were in danger of being made nothing....

Baloney. I just checked a bunch of Rakshasa items, and the prices on all worlds are not that far apart - 20% or so at most. If there were any monopoly fiefdoms on some worlds, it was because of population imbalance mostly. But what it really comes down to is that I want it to be easy for ME, not anyone else.

[bass9020]

Because the "all or nothing" of having to level all crafts to be good in any is soooooo engaging and fun lol. Crafting is insane in this game and I have to wonder if the people who defend the system do anything besides craft lol. The shit needs toned down and made more easily accessible to everyone.

It was toned down with the new set of skills we got that basically made having other crafters leveled less important. And no, I do many other things in the game besides crafting so probably shouldnt assume things like that.