**SPOILERS** Things we caught in the FFXIV launch trailer from E3 **SPOILERS**

[Gwenorai]

Bah, actually by looking at it it looks like it may be that Innocence is a form of the extremely obese guy. The robes check out, and his hair is the same golden colour.

Did Alphinaud and Alisaie seem a little taller and slightly older to anyone? If they are older, by the time we reach the missing scions on the first, how many years would have passed? What is the time dilation like between the shards/worlds?

I thought this as well, Alphy did indeed look taller and older.

[Derio]

"The Echo is a special ability that some rare individuals possess in Final Fantasy XIV. Those who have been "gifted", as the members of the Path of the Twelve call it, can resonate with other people's souls—and see their past, albeit not able to interfere or change it—as well as being able to speak every language in the world. The Echo prevents its user from being tempered by primals, and advanced users can transcend their mortal forms.

Those who awaken to it often experience a vision of meteors falling from a burning sky. It said the Echo activates whenever a Calamity draws near, which came to pass with the fall of Dalamud in the Seventh Umbral Era. The Students of Baldesion were a Sharlayan institute devoted to studying the Echo and its connection to the "Rejoining" phenomena. "


I dont believe Solus, but if he is telling the truth then that would mean we could choose to be Hydalyn or Zodiark's champion on our own choosing thanks to the Echo.

Either way that trailer was amazing and somehow raised the hype train to new levels.

[JBee]

Hmm thinking our hooded Enigmatic Man might be Innocence in disguise or something or he becomes Innocence later on (and yes I know there's stuff him maybe being G'raha Tia, but eh).

Why not both? Sin Eaters are people flooded with Light, so maybe that is the first's version of G'raha Tia who is then either flooded with Light or already was, and is or is turned into Innocence?

As for the H/Z Primals... I mean, it is Square. I take absolutely nothing in a trailer at face value. No reason why Solus couldn't be lying, or the next thing he said was, "or at least that's what they WANT you think" or something. Great for hype, but we'll see when it drops.

[ShadowSolaris7]

Why not both? Sin Eaters are people flooded with Light, so maybe that is the first's version of G'raha Tia who is then either flooded with Light or already was, and is or is turned into Innocence?

As for the H/Z Primals... I mean, it is Square. I take absolutely nothing in a trailer at face value. No reason why Solus couldn't be lying, or the next thing he said was, "or at least that's what they WANT you think" or something. Great for hype, but we'll see when it drops.

Hmm yeah might be possible that it's G'raha Tia or just completely new character and that has nothing to do with Innocence, also Innocence being around the top in the Sin Eater hierarchy and all apparently, but It's fun to just guess.

[Seraphor]

the first's version of G'raha Tia

There won't be 'versions' of people.
The split occurred thousands of years ago. G'raha Tia is G'raha Tia.

[Daralii]

There won't be 'versions' of people.
The split occurred thousands of years ago. G'raha Tia is G'raha Tia.

Though there are some funny fringe cases, like the elezen greeting the WoL in Lakeland being the carriage driver from the start of ARR.

[JBee]

There won't be 'versions' of people.
The split occurred thousands of years ago. G'raha Tia is G'raha Tia.

You're most likely right, but there's no guarantee there. Could be fate that there would always be a G'raha Tia. Could be same character model but be something like "B'raha Tia" or whatever, and is just the counterpoint. Or maybe it's the GT we know and he goes to the First with us to show us the way - to throw wide the gates - and he is taken and turned into Innocence.

Lots of ways they could go with it.

[AngelCheese77]

When they release the English trailer, can someone post here? All they have is the .. German version lol

[Laerune]

I am confused, so if they are primals... who created them?

[Averax]

When they release the English trailer, can someone post here? All they have is the .. German version lol

Search shadowbringers launch trailer on youtube. They have all of them posted