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    TheUltimate3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozza View Post
    I don't know if the WoD could do what they did had they been tempered. The Echo may very well give us free will. The blessing may mark us, but it doesn't appear to force us. Up until now the game has pretty much referred to the tempered state as lacking choice. While some tempered have exhibited higher functions, being able to plan, deceive, etc, they are ultimately carrying out the will of the primal.
    Hence my thought that tempering (as we currently know it) as a bad knockoff of Hydaelyn's blessing.

    But to have a bit of fun with it, what if the difference between the two was just by the nature of how the Ascian's Primals worked in comparison to Hydaelyn. What if, despite believing everything we've done up to this point was our free will but we were actually moving in the way Hydaelyn wanted us to from the very beginning, our minds shifted ever so slightly so that we'd never actually notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Hence my thought that tempering (as we currently know it) as a bad knockoff of Hydaelyn's blessing.

    But to have a bit of fun with it, what if the difference between the two was just by the nature of how the Ascian's Primals worked in comparison to Hydaelyn. What if, despite believing everything we've done up to this point was our free will but we were actually moving in the way Hydaelyn wanted us to from the very beginning, our minds shifted ever so slightly so that we'd never actually notice.
    Honestly I'd give either side a 50/50 chance at this point. My view right now is more that there are a lot of people in my FC and LS losing their minds over this, those who are excited and those who are devastated. People are taking the view primal == tempering. I merely wish to offer the view that that may not be the case. I've even offered up the idea that Hydaelyn might be a primal in the first as the real (non primal) Hydaelyn is completely restricted to the Source. Remember she sent Minfillia rather than going herself, maybe because she couldn't. The trailer is very ambiguous, and while that excites me with many possible angles for the story to take, others seem to have honed in on this one thing and that's it.

    Could they pull a Bioshock, certainly. Do I think they will? Not so sure. If they do they might need a whole primer for those who have forgotten early story stuff or just completely skipped. Like I said earlier I give this one 50/50 to go either way.

    Frankly the thing that is more interesting to me about this revelation is the idea that the sin eaters are basically executing people to steal their aether. Could it be that they are just mouths for Hydaelyn, since primals need aether and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozza View Post
    Honestly I'd give either side a 50/50 chance at this point. My view right now is more that there are a lot of people in my FC and LS losing their minds over this, those who are excited and those who are devastated. People are taking the view primal == tempering. I merely wish to offer the view that that may not be the case. I've even offered up the idea that Hydaelyn might be a primal in the first as the real (non primal) Hydaelyn is completely restricted to the Source. Remember she sent Minfillia rather than going herself, maybe because she couldn't. The trailer is very ambiguous, and while that excites me with many possible angles for the story to take, others seem to have honed in on this one thing and that's it.

    Could they pull a Bioshock, certainly. Do I think they will? Not so sure. If they do they might need a whole primer for those who have forgotten early story stuff or just completely skipped. Like I said earlier I give this one 50/50 to go either way.

    Frankly the thing that is more interesting to me about this revelation is the idea that the sin eaters are basically executing people to steal their aether. Could it be that they are just mouths for Hydaelyn, since primals need aether and all.
    I mean, they could go meta with it as to why 99% of the dialogue choices in this game lead to the exact same result regardless of which option was chosen by the player.
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