**SPOILERS** Things we caught in the FFXIV launch trailer from E3 **SPOILERS**

[MrThinker]

Hmm thinking our hooded Enigmatic Man might be Innocence in disguise or something or he becomes Innocence later on (and yes I know there's stuff him maybe being G'raha Tia, but eh).

While I do believe he is standing in the same arena, it looks like he is standing on the Protagonist's/entry side of the arena rather then the the throne side.

[Insertcoins]

I always figured Hydie and Zardark were primals of some sort... if not primals but simply upgraded primals/Gods.

[xJimmehx]

Honestly, I'm surprised that's considered a twist. I've always assumed that was the case all along.

Same.

You guys do know that when you create a character at the very beginning of the game, you are asked to choose a "deity". I don't want to spoil anything but look at who is actually on the list of deities and who isnt. From the very beginning it was implied, imo.
Also, Holy and Darkness are common summon types in older FFs. We have Fire, Air, Thunder, Water, Earth and a few others that are likely non-elemental based. Do we have light and dark currently? Im pretty sure we dont.

[Lord_Umbra]

Everything they do is for a reason...usually to incite chaos. So they very well could be spilling the beans to do just that. Right now, making the Scions question their purpose for existing would do a significant amount of damage.

Maybe.. but I don't recall a single time an Ascians has lied to us all of them have been quite up front with us when we met.

[Singularity]

The part that struck me the most about the video was how the sineaters where once people that got over taken by the flood of light and so got turned into monsters.

Lore about the void states that the voidsent are basically the same thing. Twisted, aether-starved remnants of life on what was once the thirteenth. It stands to reason that if that's what the flood of darkness did to the life there, then the flood of light would do something similar.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Also, Holy and Darkness are common summon types in older FFs. We have Fire, Air, Thunder, Water, Earth and a few others that are likely non-elemental based. Do we have light and dark currently? Im pretty sure we dont.

Several primals use holy/light magic, including Thordan, Alexander, Sophia, and Lakshmi. None of them really use darkness, except maybe for the Belias-egi from the level 50 summoner quest. But if you think about it, all of the primals we've fought so far have been summoned by children of Hydaelyn, who don't think of darkness as something to aspire towards....

[NefarioCall]

Before today I was merely super excited about Shadowbringers,
But now I'm thinking jesus this looks like it's going to be a masterpiece.

[Lozza]

Lore about the void states that the voidsent are basically the same thing. Twisted, aether-starved remnants of life on what was once the thirteenth. It stands to reason that if that's what the flood of darkness did to the life there, then the flood of light would do something similar.

I don't think they do a great job of explaining the voidsent in the game. If you haven't done the warring triad or if you didn't pay attn during the quest line then you would have missed a lot of this. What I find interesting is that they need to feed on aether, yet they seem to continue to exist even without it. I mean in theory if people just left the void well alone the voidsent should eventually all disappear since they wouldn't have an aether supply left on the 13th.

What I wonder is whether voidsent and sin eaters feed on aether to "feed" their primal.

[Kaedan]

Same.

You guys do know that when you create a character at the very beginning of the game, you are asked to choose a "deity". I don't want to spoil anything but look at who is actually on the list of deities and who isnt. From the very beginning it was implied, imo.
Also, Holy and Darkness are common summon types in older FFs. We have Fire, Air, Thunder, Water, Earth and a few others that are likely non-elemental based. Do we have light and dark currently? Im pretty sure we dont.

Tsukuyomi was both Light and Dark.

[Halivel]

So what did you catch in the launch trailer that caught you by surprise? I was skeptical that we'd get to see Eden, thought name of raid was too on the nose, but then I saw this.

Speaking about FF8, the moment when WoL flies in, ehm, "void" (?) and there are bubbles with moments of the past around him, looks pretty much as time compression cutscenes in the end of FF8, where characters also were flying in air seeing bubbles with moments of the past around them. I wouldn't be any sure that this is somehow connected though, but still, it's similar. And yes, obvious Eden Summon reference. Now excited for raid even more.