They're just trolling SCH players now

[Truen]

From the Live Letter published June 3rd, the very first sentence reads: "Most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed."

We all know that Miasma 2, Bane, Energy Drain, Shadowflare, Protect, and even Selene (who was lazily reworked into Eos) were deleted. How can anyone say with a straight face the capabilities of this job weren't "significantly changed?"

They say they're making the game simpler, why? Do they think their player-base is stupid and incapable of learning to finesse a job? Is that why they make statements like, "most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed," and expect not to be called out for it?

Sure, the job will allow players to overheal virtually every encounter, but how many times can someone just mash <broil> all the while telling themselves they're doing anything even remotely challenging enough to call it fun? Appalling.

[kidalutz]

From the Live Letter published June 3rd, the very first sentence reads: "Most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed."

We all know that Miasma 2, Bane, Energy Drain, Shadowflare, Protect, and even Selene (who was lazily reworked into Eos) were deleted. How can anyone say with a straight face the capabilities of this job weren't "significantly changed?"

They say they're making the game simpler by removing button bloat...who, do they think their player-base is stupid and incapable of learning to finesse a job? Is that why they make statements like, "most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed," and expect not to be called out for it?

Sure, the job will allow players to overheal virtually every encounter, but how many times can someone just mash <broil> all the while telling themselves they're doing anything even remotely challenging enough to call it fun? Appalling.

Just find one thread and stick with it.

[guardin]

Just find one thread and stick with it.

they wont because "crying healers" are hot and will become an insta hit. that is how the internet works. comment section? hate everything and copy and paste everything. insta like. healers are fine

[Kabooa]

Really.

You put in Protect and Selene into this list?

[Risvertasashi]

Well it's true. Lustrate and Indom will still be there, still just as good. Chain strat is still there. Deploy critlo was weakened a little, but can now be available at will instead of requiring RNG. The capabilities are all still there. SCH will still probably be meta.

DPS is simplified and probably a bit weaker, and I can understand not particularly liking that, but with how OP SCH has been for years and years, something had to give.

[Bonbori]

Well it's true. Lustrate and Indom will still be there, still just as good. Chain strat is still there. Deploy critlo was weakened a little, but can now be available at will instead of requiring RNG. The capabilities are all still there. SCH will still probably be meta.

DPS is simplified and probably a bit weaker, and I can understand not particularly liking that, but with how OP SCH has been for years and years, something had to give.

Then why didn't they target the "OP" parts instead of everything that made its gameplay fun, engaging and unique in comparison to the other two healers?

All of the OP stuff? Still there. Barely touched. All the fun stuff? Mostly gone.

Or was Energy Drain, Shadowflare and Bane in some way breaking the game? Last I checked, none of those abilities was facilitating ignoring mechanics or reinforcing the meta.

[Sebazy]

Then why didn't they target the "OP" parts instead of everything that made its gameplay fun, engaging and unique in comparison to the other two healers?

Because that would involve them understanding what makes the job OP.

Figuring this out would entail having someone on the small job design team that has more than passing understanding of the healers and how they play out when played at a high level.

[Ilenya]

That's the line you focused on as being "Trolling"? Not the one that goes "Instead of focusing on dealing damage while relying on the other healer to provide healing, both healers will be able support each other in the healing role. "?

[PondHollow]

That's the line you focused on as being "Trolling"? Not the one that goes "Instead of focusing on dealing damage while relying on the other healer to provide healing, both healers will be able support each other in the healing role. "?

Yeah because that has never been true, and the whole remark about 'off healers' just shows the speaker doesn't heal raids. For the whole of Stormblood, optimally, the other healer would use as many GCDs as possible to deal damage so that the Scholar would heal with OGCDS.

It's been overdue for 4 freaking years now that

the other healers needed better DPS rotations. Don't insist on making one job worse to be as bad as others. Crab mentality is unproductive. You are condoning explicit and blatant laziness.

[Reiryuu]

I have to admit, I'm starting to get quite annoyed. Yes, SCH lost some skills (why the heck are you listing Protect there, though, you do realize that's a skill WHM lost in SH, right? It was never yours...),.

Umm.. White mage lost Protect in Heavensward, not Stormblood. Just thought I'd correct you there. It's stoneskin we lost in Stormblood... only to be given the "new" skill of Divine Benison... like stoneskin, but on a cooldown and instant...

the other healers needed better DPS rotations. Don't insist on making one job worse to be as bad as others. Crab mentality is unproductive. You are condoning explicit and blatant laziness.

To be fair, I don't think she meant "taken down a notch" in the sense that SCH should get gutted, but more that the other jobs would be risen to its level so it didn't shine above them as much. I could be wrong, though.