Stop telling healers to go play dps

[xbahax92]

Not enough to do?
DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?

Everyone got their own goals and things they like and things they dont like. I dont think I need to farm all mounts, minions (beside some are on the glorious cash shop) and achievements to keep myself entertained in a game Ive been playing since 5 years now. I completed the things I wanted to complete, thats it. If I decide to use my time on forums, then I do it.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

I find it hard to find sympathy for people in this regard being that people were telling healers to "go play another game" if they weren't DPSing for all these years. I remember those posts on reddit and this website.

Not so fun to hear it on the other side of the fence. Hopefully this teaches people a lesson to not be like this but I doubt it will.

[Limonia]

I find it hard to find sympathy for people in this regard being that people were telling healers to "go play another game" if they weren't DPSing for all these years.

This was said to those kind of players that claimed it is alright to only stand around pressing a heal button like every 15 seconds because they came from a game where there was far less downtime between healing needed and they needed to manage their resources more. Those players often even encouraged others to also just be idle while the other party members actually farmed their loot for them. It was the unwillingness to adapt to a game that is kind of designed differently than what they were playing before.
Because it is a FACT that there is a lot of downtime between healing needed, and because it is so EASILY possible to mostly heal with oGCDs and some (buffed) GCDs, playing a no DPS healer is highly inefficient and also disrespectful to your team. It is selfish to let others do all the work for you while you just follow around and press one or two buttons here and there (or spam the heal button which is actually the same because you don't contribute much more). It works in other games, but not in this one. This is why those people were given the advice to play another game, if they only want to use healing spells and still be useful, efficient, not a burden and respectful to your team.

I do fully understand why people only want to heal when they play the healer role. Even though I like to do both healing and DPSing, I still get what they mean. But in this game it just doesn't work out that way.

[Videra]

90% of your casts are still going to be Broil. We all know that much for a fact, basically.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

This was said to those kind of players that claimed it is alright to only stand around pressing a heal button like every 15 seconds because they came from a game where there was far less downtime between healing needed and they needed to manage their resources more. Those players often even encouraged others to also just be idle while the other party members actually farmed their loot for them. It was the unwillingness to adapt to a game that is kind of designed differently than what they were playing before.
Because it is a FACT that there is a lot of downtime between healing needed, and because it is so EASILY possible to mostly heal with oGCDs and some (buffed) GCDs, playing a no DPS healer is highly inefficient and also disrespectful to your team. It is selfish to let others do all the work for you while you just follow around and press one or two buttons here and there (or spam the heal button which is actually the same because you don't contribute much more). It works in other games, but not in this one. This is why those people were given the advice to play another game, if they only want to use healing spells and still be useful, efficient, not a burden and respectful to your team.

I do fully understand why people only want to heal when they play the healer role. Even though I like to do both healing and DPSing, I still get what they mean. But in this game it just doesn't work out that way.

Or maybe people aren't as good at games as you are and that downtime is them trying to focus on what's going on.

Of course gamers won't understand this concept being as that Sekiro meme exists.

[Nariel]

This was said to those kind of players that claimed it is alright to only stand around pressing a heal button like every 15 seconds because they came from a game where there was far less downtime between healing needed and they needed to manage their resources more. Those players often even encouraged others to also just be idle while the other party members actually farmed their loot for them. It was the unwillingness to adapt to a game that is kind of designed differently than what they were playing before.
Because it is a FACT that there is a lot of downtime between healing needed, and because it is so EASILY possible to mostly heal with oGCDs and some (buffed) GCDs, playing a no DPS healer is highly inefficient and also disrespectful to your team. It is selfish to let others do all the work for you while you just follow around and press one or two buttons here and there (or spam the heal button which is actually the same because you don't contribute much more). It works in other games, but not in this one. This is why those people were given the advice to play another game, if they only want to use healing spells and still be useful, efficient, not a burden and respectful to your team.

I do fully understand why people only want to heal when they play the healer role. Even though I like to do both healing and DPSing, I still get what they mean. But in this game it just doesn't work out that way.

Yeah, because you totaly can do it without their heal, other are a burden to the heal forcing him burn more mana than he should, so the least they can do is doing enough damage without healer to carry them even more.

[LalaRu]

I think what a lot of people are hoping (myself included) is that the downtime will be reduced somewhat...

My only fear about it, if and when that happens, we will find a good number of today's "healers" failing hard on keep people alive.

Just look at what happened to Steps of Faith 1.0, when DPS were asked to use some brain.

[Elgeron]

Or maybe people aren't as good at games as you are and that downtime is them trying to focus on what's going on.

Of course gamers won't understand this concept being as that Sekiro meme exists.

Sorry for actually liking to play games and want to be challenge or excel at them. Seems that nowdays everyone just want a to get a pat in the back just for being there and doing the bare minimum. I won't ever understand why people do not want to make use of their full kits. Furthemore, this isn't even about player skill. It is understandable if a player cannot perform at a higher level. What is puzzling is those that can but refuse to do so. What fun is there in remaining idle?
Also, what if they changed the DPS kit to a Buff/debuff kit, more in line whit other RPG healers. Would you then be ok with healers only healing? Is not that we do so because we want to be "green DPS", is that literally our kit is divided in two, and we want to make full use of it.

[Ilyrian]

My only fear about it, if and when that happens, we will find a good number of today's "healers" failing hard on keep people alive.

Just look at what happened to Steps of Faith 1.0, when DPS were asked to use some brain.

What will be interesting to see is how they balance incoming damage with the slow gcd. I'm yet to be convinced that the changes are going to be major.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

Sorry for actually liking to play games and want to be challenge or excel at them. Seems that nowdays everyone just want a to get a pat in the back just for being there and doing the bare minimum. I won't ever understand why people do not want to make use of their full kits. Furthemore, this isn't even about player skill. It is understandable if a player cannot perform at a higher level. What is puzzling is those that can but refuse to do so. What fun is there in remaining idle?

You are proving my point. You seem to not comprehend people aren't as capable of you and expect others to be at your level.

Get off your high horse.

Also, what if they changed the DPS kit to a Buff/debuff kit, more in line whit other RPG healers. Would you then be ok with healers only healing? Is not that we do so because we want to be "green DPS", is that literally our kit is divided in two, and we want to make full use of it.

I can play either cause I'm not picky. I can play FFXI's healing focused healer or this game's DPS heavy healer. I don't care either way, the changes they are doing here seem to be improvements to me getting rid of the bloat.