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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    PS: ... DPS...
    There are complaints about some of the DPS role jobs as well, with MCH being the biggest DPS job up for discussion and complaints due to how their upcoming changes would be severely hampered by potential latency (among other complaints).
    The difference being that they didn't have parts of their identities burned and skills and abilities stolen away for the sake of "balancing" the role (and, to be honest, probably moreso for the sake of highlighting the Dancer).

    I also don't like this idea that, if a different role or job doesn't have a problem, others can't either, and/or they shouldn't be brought up. If you're "tired of seeing" something, use that selective sight, that hasn't seen any of the discussion regarding the other Jobs, and simply "not see" these threads that you don't want to see. In the meantime, we have a bone to pick, and we're gonna pick it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoahl View Post
    They did not simplify dps, they actually gave tanks more ways to dps, and DPS like BLM got more ways to keep DPSing... more buttons to DPS, Same with RDM.

    What are you even saying lol. If anything having the DoT's as potent as they were and the accuracy checkes encouraged healers to not dps and put DoTs up then focus on healing as spells would miss and be a waste of mana. But these days we are encouraged to put as many GCD's as possible into the boss with large potency single target spells, thus contradicting what you are saying tbh.
    More buttons doesn't mean more complicated. They simplified rotations because now it's easier to land OGCDs, so you can use them whenever it suits you instead of a fixed rotation that can be wasted due misuse of OGCDs, and you just said it; BLM will have more ways to DPS, so it will be easier to them to keep the damage up. No contradictions here.

    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    There are complaints about some of the DPS role jobs as well, with MCH being the biggest DPS job up for discussion and complaints due to how their upcoming changes would be severely hampered by potential latency (among other complaints).
    The difference being that they didn't have parts of their identities burned and skills and abilities stolen away for the sake of "balancing" the role (and, to be honest, probably moreso for the sake of highlighting the Dancer).

    I also don't like this idea that, if a different role or job doesn't have a problem, others can't either, and/or they shouldn't be brought up. If you're "tired of seeing" something, use that selective sight, that hasn't seen any of the discussion regarding the other Jobs, and simply "not see" these threads that you don't want to see. In the meantime, we have a bone to pick, and we're gonna pick it.
    These complains exists before every single expansion because people try to dig too deep and base their opinions on datamining/insufficient data. It's always the exact same thing. Nobody knows the statweights yet, and doesn't know the new potency formula, so all these opinions are quite invalid till we get our hands on the expansion.

    And I'm still thinking the same way; healers needed some rework. Maybe we will get harder bosses with constant damage so we will need constant healing, who knows.

    I'd just chill until the expansion instead of spamming the forums with complains.
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    Last edited by ChocoFeru; 06-07-2019 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post

    I'd just chill until the expansion instead of spamming the forums with complains.
    Sadly there is not enough to do in game, content has been squashed, dry, boring. Let people theorycraft and tell their opinion about the gamestyle they're approaching with healers. We already had this situation with Whitemage the whole time (now that Aero III gets removed as well). But now all Healers will DPS the same way while playing with their little feature (Fairy, Cards).

    Its only understandable that people worry, I worry actually about low level content and roulettes. So far doing low level roulettes as Scholar (helping FC and friends) is most enjoyable as scholar, because your fairy does most of the healing, while you can aoe spread dots and get done with those limiting dungeons.
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Sadly there is not enough to do in game, content has been squashed, dry, boring. Let people theorycraft and tell their opinion about the gamestyle they're approaching with healers. We already had this situation with Whitemage the whole time (now that Aero III gets removed as well). But now all Healers will DPS the same way while playing with their little feature (Fairy, Cards).

    Its only understandable that people worry, I worry actually about low level content and roulettes. So far doing low level roulettes as Scholar (helping FC and friends) is most enjoyable as scholar, because your fairy does most of the healing, while you can aoe spread dots and get done with those limiting dungeons.

    Not enough to do?
    DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    Not enough to do?
    DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?
    Pointless nonsense. Achievements for what exactly - I've run PotD 10 million times? Amazing! Have some more pointless fluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Pointless nonsense. Achievements for what exactly - I've run PotD 10 million times? Amazing! Have some more pointless fluff.
    m8, it's a game. Everything you've done up to now is pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    m8, it's a game. Everything you've done up to now is pointless.
    Achievements in this specific game are particularly pointless. Stupidly so.
    I want them to be reworked to be workable - but currently they are not.
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    Isn't by that very same train of thought, make everything in the game pointless?

    I dunno man, take a break. Play another game, it's almost summer get a tan, go outside and chill with your dog. Getting frustrated on a fourm for a game you are clearly upset with right now is not healthy. You don't owe the game anything, so don't fall victim to the sunk cost fallacy. It's a hobby, not a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    Not enough to do?
    DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?
    Everyone got their own goals and things they like and things they dont like. I dont think I need to farm all mounts, minions (beside some are on the glorious cash shop) and achievements to keep myself entertained in a game Ive been playing since 5 years now. I completed the things I wanted to complete, thats it. If I decide to use my time on forums, then I do it.
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