Stop telling healers to go play dps

[althenawhm]

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And some DPS cant do their rotation and doge AoEs at the same time, but I dont support gutting them just because there are a few idiots out there.

[ChocoFeru]

And some DPS cant do their rotation and doge AoEs at the same time, but I dont support gutting them just because there are a few idiots out there.

Atleast it can be solved healing them to prevent a wipe. Well, only if the healer is healing, wich is something rare nowadays.

PS: they simplyfied DPS as well, by the way. They got some stackable OGCDs to simplify rotations, tanks as well, and I don't see any thread discussing about it.

[Knoahl]

Atleast it can be solved healing them to prevent a wipe. Well, only if the healer is healing, wich is something rare nowadays.

PS: they simplyfied DPS as well, by the way. They got some stackable OGCDs to simplify rotations, tanks as well, and I don't see any thread discussing about it.

They did not simplify dps, they actually gave tanks more ways to dps, and DPS like BLM got more ways to keep DPSing... more buttons to DPS, Same with RDM.

What are you even saying lol. If anything having the DoT's as potent as they were and the accuracy checkes encouraged healers to not dps and put DoTs up then focus on healing as spells would miss and be a waste of mana. But these days we are encouraged to put as many GCD's as possible into the boss with large potency single target spells, thus contradicting what you are saying tbh.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

They did not simplify dps, they actually gave tanks more ways to dps, and DPS like BLM got more ways to keep DPSing... more buttons to DPS, Same with RDM.

What are you even saying lol. If anything having the DoT's as potent as they were and the accuracy checkes encouraged healers to not dps and put DoTs up then focus on healing as spells would miss and be a waste of mana. But these days we are encouraged to put as many GCD's as possible into the boss with large potency single target spells, thus contradicting what you are saying tbh.

They have "nerfed" positional requirements and streamlined various aspects of tanks and DPS throughout the history of this game. 2.0 WAR, general positionals like Heavy Thrust on DRG and other DPS as well as changing delirium to make it easier. Removing DRK's DoT with Stormblood as well.

This ain't nothin' new.

[MintnHoney]

PS: ... DPS...

There are complaints about some of the DPS role jobs as well, with MCH being the biggest DPS job up for discussion and complaints due to how their upcoming changes would be severely hampered by potential latency (among other complaints).
The difference being that they didn't have parts of their identities burned and skills and abilities stolen away for the sake of "balancing" the role (and, to be honest, probably moreso for the sake of highlighting the Dancer).

I also don't like this idea that, if a different role or job doesn't have a problem, others can't either, and/or they shouldn't be brought up. If you're "tired of seeing" something, use that selective sight, that hasn't seen any of the discussion regarding the other Jobs, and simply "not see" these threads that you don't want to see. In the meantime, we have a bone to pick, and we're gonna pick it.

[ChocoFeru]

They did not simplify dps, they actually gave tanks more ways to dps, and DPS like BLM got more ways to keep DPSing... more buttons to DPS, Same with RDM.

What are you even saying lol. If anything having the DoT's as potent as they were and the accuracy checkes encouraged healers to not dps and put DoTs up then focus on healing as spells would miss and be a waste of mana. But these days we are encouraged to put as many GCD's as possible into the boss with large potency single target spells, thus contradicting what you are saying tbh.

More buttons doesn't mean more complicated. They simplified rotations because now it's easier to land OGCDs, so you can use them whenever it suits you instead of a fixed rotation that can be wasted due misuse of OGCDs, and you just said it; BLM will have more ways to DPS, so it will be easier to them to keep the damage up. No contradictions here.

There are complaints about some of the DPS role jobs as well, with MCH being the biggest DPS job up for discussion and complaints due to how their upcoming changes would be severely hampered by potential latency (among other complaints).
The difference being that they didn't have parts of their identities burned and skills and abilities stolen away for the sake of "balancing" the role (and, to be honest, probably moreso for the sake of highlighting the Dancer).

I also don't like this idea that, if a different role or job doesn't have a problem, others can't either, and/or they shouldn't be brought up. If you're "tired of seeing" something, use that selective sight, that hasn't seen any of the discussion regarding the other Jobs, and simply "not see" these threads that you don't want to see. In the meantime, we have a bone to pick, and we're gonna pick it.

These complains exists before every single expansion because people try to dig too deep and base their opinions on datamining/insufficient data. It's always the exact same thing. Nobody knows the statweights yet, and doesn't know the new potency formula, so all these opinions are quite invalid till we get our hands on the expansion.

And I'm still thinking the same way; healers needed some rework. Maybe we will get harder bosses with constant damage so we will need constant healing, who knows.

I'd just chill until the expansion instead of spamming the forums with complains.

[xbahax92]

I'd just chill until the expansion instead of spamming the forums with complains.

Sadly there is not enough to do in game, content has been squashed, dry, boring. Let people theorycraft and tell their opinion about the gamestyle they're approaching with healers. We already had this situation with Whitemage the whole time (now that Aero III gets removed as well). But now all Healers will DPS the same way while playing with their little feature (Fairy, Cards).

Its only understandable that people worry, I worry actually about low level content and roulettes. So far doing low level roulettes as Scholar (helping FC and friends) is most enjoyable as scholar, because your fairy does most of the healing, while you can aoe spread dots and get done with those limiting dungeons.

[NekoNova]

Sadly there is not enough to do in game, content has been squashed, dry, boring. Let people theorycraft and tell their opinion about the gamestyle they're approaching with healers. We already had this situation with Whitemage the whole time (now that Aero III gets removed as well). But now all Healers will DPS the same way while playing with their little feature (Fairy, Cards).

Its only understandable that people worry, I worry actually about low level content and roulettes. So far doing low level roulettes as Scholar (helping FC and friends) is most enjoyable as scholar, because your fairy does most of the healing, while you can aoe spread dots and get done with those limiting dungeons.

Not enough to do?
DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?

[Ilyrian]

Not enough to do?
DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?

Pointless nonsense. Achievements for what exactly - I've run PotD 10 million times? Amazing! Have some more pointless fluff.

[xbahax92]

Not enough to do?
DO you have all achievements, titles, mounts, minions, jobs leveled ?

Everyone got their own goals and things they like and things they dont like. I dont think I need to farm all mounts, minions (beside some are on the glorious cash shop) and achievements to keep myself entertained in a game Ive been playing since 5 years now. I completed the things I wanted to complete, thats it. If I decide to use my time on forums, then I do it.