Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Nestama]

1. Who said they lied? You're picking out a handful out of the thousands who didn't say they lie to paint a picture of Viera supporters which is not factual.
2. Who's saying SE said it was a guarantee? I'm guaranteeing we'll see them announced before 6.0, I don't work for SE, this is my personal guarantee based on how I see the situation.

You've more or less answered your own questions, mate. At least leave me something to respond to.

There were people in the earlier pages (and on Reddit here and there) who stated Yoshi-P lied. When I asked for a source, I was never given one, or given a "he implied they were never gonna do it again, thus promise broken!" type of excuse.

[Theodric]

The aggression isn't isolated to people coming into the thread saying that the missing genders should not be added, to be fair.

As an aside, when you see someone claiming that they're in support of Hrothgar on one page and then ten pages later they're ranting about how they should never have been added it really does sow strife and send mixed messages. I understand that people want to see the missing genders added at some point. I do too! Yet I think it's time some talking points simply aren't brought up at all as they only cause disruption and arguments.

[WhiteArchmage]

The aggression isn't isolated to people coming into the thread saying that the missing genders should not be added, to be fair.

As an aside, when you see someone claiming that they're in support of Hrothgar on one page and then ten pages later they're ranting about how they should never have been added it really does sow strife and send mixed messages. I understand that people want to see the missing genders added at some point. I do too! Yet I think it's time some talking points simply aren't brought up at all as they only cause disruption and arguments.

It's not, as the very aggressive posts on the tentative look of mViera can attest, yet it's still not a good idea to provoke people with inflammatory comments: it's a good way to get people banned and even risks getting the thread locked, and I don't want either. I agree there are very aggressive posters on both sides, I'd just rather Yoshi-P get a picture of a supportive fanbase than one that will start attacking one another over their personal aesthetics.

[Astralya]

Our relationship with SquareEnix about Male Viera in a single picture :

[Yllania]

Nugget you're plenty aggressive in like every thread and go around trying to instigate. Youre not fooling me or anyone really.

Also who doesnt support lions, lets fight. Meet me in the pit, I will die for female hrothgar.

[Theodric]

Yoshi-P had to make an explicit statement to point out that male viera would not be designed to be child-like as a result of this thread and others.

Add to that the frequent arguments breaking out throughout the thread itself and I'm not at all surprised if it really is being linked and ridiculed elsewhere.

I don't particularly care for people coming into the thread solely to stir the pot but at the same time...let's not pretend it is not happening for a reason.

[dustdjinn]

Yoshi-P had to make an explicit statement to point out that male viera would not be designed to be child-like as a result of this thread and others.

Add to that the frequent arguments breaking out throughout the thread itself and I'm not at all surprised if it really is being linked and ridiculed elsewhere.

So I keep hearing that comment and I want to clarify things. I saw people wanting male viera to be the same sizes as a female au ra not a child. The only people that I PERSONALLY saw saying anything about child were the people trying to discredit the people wanting more slender and short figures. Is that what you mean?

[Yllania]

Yoshi-P had to make an explicit statement to point out that male viera would not be designed to be child-like as a result of this thread and others.

Add to that the frequent arguments breaking out throughout the thread itself and I'm not at all surprised if it really is being linked and ridiculed elsewhere.

I don't particularly care for people coming into the thread solely to stir the pot but at the same time...let's not pretend it is not happening for a reason.

No that was because of the rampant shota veira art on twitter, not this thread lmao. I aint seen anyone here saying they wanted child like veria. There was a thread about how people were sad we wouldnt get "lolis" but that was not a veira thread. Stop blaming us for stuff we didnt do.

People come in here to start crap because they go into every thread to start crap, and it is not for any noble reason. Get off of it.

[Theodric]

Quite a lot of inappropriate art and comments were posted within this thread and were promptly nuked by the mods. A number of posters then began claiming that the only people bringing up child-like viera were those looking to start drama. There's an element of plausible deniability at play. Now that the evidence is no longer there, there appears to be an attempt to rewrite the thread's history.

Yes, most of the worst stuff showed up on Twitter. Yet it was linked here with frequency directly by certain posters during the early days. Amidst various meltdowns and horrific accusations of discrimination aimed at the development team due to misguided and troublesome attempts to falsely attribute the missing genders to malice rather than an attempt at a compromise.

[Yllania]

The pedo problem is a playerbase wide problem, and you know it. People have been asking for child like races for years, pajali, loli, anything. People are creepy to my lalafel when I made no such advance toward them and my lalafel is fully clothed. It is hardly only a veira problem, and people should be allowed to support it without people saying that to them when they haven't done it themselves.

People come in here and insult me wither Im aggressive or not, and then cry abuse when people snap back knowing full well thats thats what they were trying to do to get an example that we are frothing mad.You all say the same things and start fights about things said dozens of pages ago and Im just not going to do it anymore. People make threads whining about this thread and we get blamed for it. I wonder why?

I'm not going to make a male veira. The thing I was mad about is the stupid lore reason which was bs in the first place. I hate genderlock in general, in any mmo. My plan is that if they add it Im going to make a female hrothgar because I like BIG BEEFY LADIES. Im willing to wait and just show support, maybe itll never happen and you know what? Ill live. You guys can continue to cherry pick but I dont care. Im not what you guys keep telling me and others that we are.