WoW this, WoW that: Why are FFXIV forum users so obsessed with WoW refugees?

[CazzT]

I'm not really sure how much I agree with this. XIV has much stricter rules about "toxic behavior", so people will just be toxic where they can't be reported for it (private linkshells/discord), instead of starting arguments out in the open. This helps make things seem less toxic, because people don't know they're being insulted and can't argue back, but I don't think that the people playing XIV are actually inherently less toxic than people who play WoW.

Perhaps. But toxicity in private means it's not impacting the community, so it's not really relevant.

[Akonyl]

Perhaps. But toxicity in private means it's not impacting the community, so it's not really relevant.

Sure it is. The conversation here is about whether or not WoW players coming to XIV will make the community worse off or not, which is dependent on whether or not the players themselves are actually more toxic than the existing XIV fanbase.

If WoW players are legitimately more toxic people, then the XIV fanbase will be worse off with a large influx of WoW players

If WoW players are the same toxicity as XIV players, but just allowed to be more visibly toxic in WoW because of WoW rules vs XIV rules, then when they come over to XIV and are forced to play by XIV ToS rules, they'll be reduced to the same less toxic appearance that the current XIV community has, and there'll be hardly any difference.