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  1. #41
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    Gwenorai's Avatar
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    I'm all for this. I have friends who now have spare tokens they can't even use now; they already have the rest of the weapons.
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  2. #42
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius2625 View Post
    If the devs can find magic free time to make 500 hats fit on Lion-0 and Bugs Bunny cosplayers, they can take some of that magic free time to make FOUR weapon models. Bonus: You don't need to figure out how it will fit on a cat's head.
    I'd rather they spend that actual free time to make more headgear fit on Hrothgar and Viera, because that's going to affect a far larger amount of players than the 1% that'll obtain those four weapon models.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I'm all for this. I have friends who now have spare tokens they can't even use now; they already have the rest of the weapons.
    That just means that your friends are done with that content.

    People having spare tokens is a pretty silly reason for them to add more weapons. If that were the case, I have these Ixion Horns/Proto Ultima Exoplating/Sassho-seki Fragments that could certainly use new things to spend them on!
    Or hey, they could add Ultimate tokens to a housing furnishing recipe, like Behemoth Horns and Odin Mantles!
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    I dont find any reason for SE to not implement those weap
    Resources to add them have to come from somewhere, and if they're going to add special weapons to old content for new jobs, why do Ultimate for several hundred players* when they could do relics for tens of thousands that would give SE more bang for their buck?

    *Clears are higher in number, but it would only be something to do for those that don't have the tokens already and are interested in obtaining the weapons

    The integrity of the fights was only a thing for a few weeks after release. Anyone being able to buy clears eliminates that, don't you think?
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  4. #44
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    Resources to add them have to come from somewhere, and if they're going to add special weapons to old content for new jobs, why do Ultimate for several hundred players* when they could do relics for tens of thousands that would give SE more bang for their buck?

    *Clears are higher in number, but it would only be something to do for those that don't have the tokens already and are interested in obtaining the weapons

    The integrity of the fights was only a thing for a few weeks after release. Anyone being able to buy clears eliminates that, don't you think?
    Yes, because re-skinning four weapons to existing models would totally cost the same resources as brand new relic weapons. In the case of UCoB, they likely will make Coil versions of those weapons.

    And not really, considering the vast majority of people either don't have or aren't willing to spend 500-1,200$ for an Ultimate clear. By that logic, they shouldn't even bother with more than half the game's content because a very small amount of people buy clears/carries/levels/bot.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
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    Dzian does have a point though. Even with Yoshi-P's word, he sometimes conveniently backtracks from it. Despite there being a massive uproar when they allowed you to unsync second coil of bahamut savage back in heavensward, those who were affected were drowned out by the cheering crowd. Raiders were left disappointed, eyes a little bit more open than the day previous. Would I like you to be right? Yes, absolutely so. We should be striving to make challenging and memorable fights age like wine. But a lot of people share Dzian's doubt and cynicism towards the development team concerning the preservation of difficulty in legacy content.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Dzian does have a point though. Even with Yoshi-P's word, he sometimes conveniently backtracks from it. Despite there being a massive uproar when they allowed you to unsync second coil of bahamut savage, those who were affected were drowned out by the cheering crowd. Raiders were left disappointed, eyes a little bit more open than the day before. Would I like you to be right? Yes, absolutely so. We should be striving to make challenging and memorable fights age like wine. But a lot of people share Dzian's doubt and cynicism towards the development team concerning the preservation of difficulty in legacy content.
    The difference remains Ultimate serves no other purpose except to cater towards the precise raid crowd you mention. It's intended to address the complaints of Savage's difficulty being watered down. Making it unsyncable defeats the entire purpose.

    Yoshida isn't backtracking in this sense because Ultimate was never meant to be content for the majority. They have outright stated the clear rate is roughly what they expected, and they're happy with the results.
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  7. #47
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    Alexwern Nisutoromu
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    I will sit on 1 Ultima Token until the end of time if needed. I just want the weapons on all tanks.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Yes, because re-skinning four weapons to existing models would totally cost the same resources as brand new relic weapons. In the case of UCoB, they likely will make Coil versions of those weapons.
    They made new RDM and SAM weapon models for both UCoB, and UWU. It's actually unlikely for them to make any GNB or DNC Coil weapons, since there aren't any RDM/SAM Allagan or High Allagan weapons. The only reason why RDM/SAM Dreadwyrm weapons exist, is because they had to make them for UCoB, which was current expansion content at that time.

    You have to realise that asking for GNB/DNC UCoB/UWU weapons is asking for weapon models to be made for content that has an ever-shrinking portion of the playerbase participating in it. It's old content, it won't have as many people running it compared to when they were newly added (and even then, it was content for around 1% of the playerbase).
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  9. #49
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    Calla Soatski
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erza_Scarlets View Post
    Why should you get an ultimate gunbreaker weapon when you didn't do ultimate on gunbreaker, let alone play gunbreaker before in the ultimate? If they do decide to add them they should make you have to reclear it on that job to get the new weapons.
    For the same reason I have an ultimate dragoon weapon when I didn't do ultimate on dragoon. I, the person, cleared the fight.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calla View Post
    For the same reason I have an ultimate dragoon weapon when I didn't do ultimate on dragoon. I, the person, cleared the fight.
    And you, the person, have a title to showcase that achievement.
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