Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Bright-Flower]

In theory, if SE wants to say increase outgoing damage so healesr need to spend more gcds healing, I'm fine with that. But I think trimming down healer dps actions to this degree is a mistake. Buuuuuuuut.....

A. This requires them to actually make pure healing consistently needed AND engaging on its own in terms of gamplay.
B. These changes likely would not easiliy be applied back to old content, making old dungeons/raids all the more dull for healers.
C. Healers still need to be able to dps when doing quests and solo instances, and stripping away the number of buttons they have will make it more dull like those quests where you take control of npcs with 4 buttons. There's more than just group content to consider here.

[Deceptus]

Thread OP here. Didn't think it would get necro'd two years after the fact.

But it's funny how relevant it's become. Great job Pure Healer defenders. SE listened to you and dumbed-down the role I and many others love.

Have fun with the leveling process spamming 2111111111 on the overworld. Sorry ASTs, I know this has been your life and you wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[JowyAtreides]

C. Healers still need to be able to dps when doing quests and solo instances, and stripping away the number of buttons they have will make it more dull like those quests where you take control of npcs with 4 buttons. There's more than just group content to consider here.

This is the single most concerning part for me.

[braxberry]

I oNlY hAvE fOuR bUtToNs oN aLpHi AnD hIeN!!!!!1

But as a character that could *only have WHM*, totally okay that we basically have that equivalent in overworld and solo instances.

/s

[IttyBitty]

Emnity management is a group responsibility
HP management is a group responsibility
Mitigation is a group responsibility
DPS is a group responsibility

Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

[Haxaan]

Emnity management is a group responsibility
HP management is a group responsibility
Mitigation is a group responsibility
DPS is a group responsibility

Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

100% this ^

[Knoahl]

Healers are so far away from any FF game in the entire series its tragic (lost the majority of our debuffs and buffs and our identity.) , MMO normies ruin everything.

We can still damage, we can still probably output decent damage on that topic, its just going to be boring. I'd do anything for a melee healer like Fistweaving or Holy Paladin in this game, something really engaging and aggressive like Discipline priest from WoW.

What's it gonna be next "Shields aren't for healers remove them plz I just want my sparkles" or "Emnity production removed from all heals" /s I'm being sarcastic but at this rate I'd not even be surprised if they end up doing this lmao

[fumofu]

Emnity management is a group responsibility
HP management is a group responsibility
Mitigation is a group responsibility
DPS is a group responsibility

Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

If you're talking about some static savage group, then I guess that's ok. In pre-made groups feel free to do whatever you like. But if you're talking about random groups, your expectations are absurd.

"Emnity management is a group responsibility". Cos tank is too busy being in DPS stance and dps'ing? And btw is it true that in SHB SE gonna remove that waste-of-space DD role action for reduced emnity generation. Hope it is.

''HP management is a group responsibility'' . Yeah sure, let tanks and DD survive just by potions cos healer is too busy dps'ing.

"Mitigation is a group responsibility". On this i'm 50/50. Thing is if everyone has skills to reduce damage taken, they require less healing and that's not a good thing, therefore such skills should be removed from game, cos it breaks balance and that's why we now have such nonsense as 'healer should dps' going on.

"DPS is a group responsibility". In ultimate/savage/ex content sure, cos it's only really possible with static groups and these fights have such an absurd dps checks. But for normal content tanks nor healers shouldn't feel preasure to dps. Unless you want to speedrun, but then feel free to make your own group with like-minded people.

Generally all your statement in general shows you'd like to throw tank/healer/dps roles out of window completely and have every job do everything. Hope that'll never happen.

[Misutoraru]

oh here we go again
if I have the choice between big down time for dps or content with intensive healing, I would definitely pick latter
it use to have heal intensive fight, only when gear progression got out of hand and how powerful our heal spell became

[Deceptus]

"Emnity management is a group responsibility". Cos tank is too busy being in DPS stance and dps'ing? And btw is it true that in SHB SE gonna remove that waste-of-space DD role action for reduced emnity generation. Hope it is.

Enmity Management absolutely is a group responsibility. Diversion, Lucid, Purification, Merciful Eyes, Elusive Jump, Refresh, Tactician, and most importantly Shadewalker and Smokescreen exist for a reason.

''HP management is a group responsibility'' . Yeah sure, let tanks and DD survive just by potions cos healer is too busy dps'ing.

Clemency, Second Wind, Bloodbath (which is super strong on melee), Merciful Eyes, Vercure, and yes potions exist. Even though most DPS forget about these abilities. Almost every single job has some form of self healing.

"Mitigation is a group responsibility". On this i'm 50/50. Thing is if everyone has skills to reduce damage taken, they require less healing and that's not a good thing, therefore such skills should be removed from game, cos it breaks balance and that's why we now have such nonsense as 'healer should dps' going on.

It's not just about damage taken. Troubador (all forms), Third Eye, Mana Ward, Feint, Apoc, mixed with Reprisal, Cover, TBN, and Shake it Off all provide mitigation Almost every single job has some form of mitigation, self or group.

"DPS is a group responsibility". In ultimate/savage/ex content sure, cos it's only really possible with static groups and these fights have such an absurd dps checks. But for normal content tanks nor healers shouldn't feel preasure to dps

In normal which you consider nothing, you realize that killing mobs faster is a form of mitigation right? The faster mobs die, the less overall damage they can do. So yeah, Healers, go all out while you still can. Use that Holy on every trash pull. It's an on demand Hallowed Ground without the CD.

Because Hydaelyn forbid people be responsible for group play. . .