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  1. #101
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Imbrium View Post
    Nowhere on the event page does it say it's to help players. It says to run dungeons, get the tome, get item. Repeat. I mean, if it does help new players at the same time that's great, but I don't see that as why the event was designed.
    Well the selection of the dungeons (and the two big MSQ) and raids kinda hint that this is just their way to push people in old content. Maybe the crystal tower is there because it will be important in the next expansion but especially the two MSQ dungeons are a big wall for some players. If it does not mean that then why not just give them in every single content? Or at least for roulettes.
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  2. #102
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    Minerva-Redwater's Avatar
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    Minerva Redwater
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    it really isn't hard to grind it, I already got the Pegasus mount and I'm working on the Namazu earrings. Literally just by dong what I do everyday (Main scenario while watching tv, Alliance roulette (change your ilvl to make sure you get the ARR ones) and leveling roulette which has been giving me the ones with moogle tomes lately. That right there is 6 tomes per day just by running roulettes and leveling your own character. Not to mention you could run main scenario while doing something else to grind 3 tomes per run. I really hope SE ignores this complaining and leaves it as is. Tired of them catering to the ones who don't wanna put effort for things and getting everything for basically free like they did with the Ixion fate.
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    Minerva Redwater
    Leader of the Dragon's Kiith FC
    World: Balmung

  3. #103
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    Imbrium's Avatar
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    R'khenna Tommo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Well the selection of the dungeons (and the two big MSQ) and raids kinda hint that this is just their way to push people in old content. Maybe the crystal tower is there because it will be important in the next expansion but especially the two MSQ dungeons are a big wall for some players. If it does not mean that then why not just give them in every single content? Or at least for roulettes.
    Only reason I can think of them not giving it in all content is to make it grindy in particular. There's a drain you feel from doing the same thing 100 times versus 10 things 10 times each. It generally makes you want to space that out- maybe over a month or so, until just before the expansion hits.

    Plus I imagine this is a trial run of the event. I'm sure they'll change up the dungeons/tomes later if we do it again. But if they're hoping we'll re-live LoA/etc before 5.0, most ppl have cutscenes off. If a few people get helped through that's good, but at this point it feels more like they were trying to tie the event in loosely with upcoming content, but that's it. It's still supposed to be a grind.

    Meanwhile there's stuff like story mode Susanoo that ppl wait 3 hours on, etc. It's not just the Crystal Tower arc, which is why I said it would of made more sense to focus on late HW-end SB content to get ppl caught up. it's a lot easier to get 1 person to Zerg ARR content with you than it is for HW and SB. I was in a Nidhogg clear last night and we wiped first try. This is the big reason I see the events purpose as grind, get tome, get items. There's so much content that takes forever to que into, but SE didn't award the tome to msq roulette or mentor roulette. That just says grind to me.

    Could it have been done differently? Of course. Should it have? I'm not going to argue that one. Either it's doing what SE put it there to do and it's brought back, or they go 'well this flopped', and change or don't re-use it.

    Edit: If you think about newer players, SE kind of has to choose low level dungeons for the event. If they picked HW/SB dungeons players still in ARR wouldn't be able to participate. They upped the requirement for the Noctis event to lv50/Ultima Weapon done, so pushing for Crystal Tower isn't too far fetched from there. But generally for events, the required lv is 15, occasionally 30, and not past ARR msq. If that's the case, we would be looking at more low level dungeons in the future.
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    Last edited by Imbrium; 06-06-2019 at 05:15 AM. Reason: Last thought

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  5. #104
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    Mirassou's Avatar
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    Emma Swann
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 37
    I've been grinding these a bit, and I agree the amount rewarded is a tad skimpy.

    But I really doubt an increase will happen.
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    Last edited by Mirassou; 06-06-2019 at 08:34 AM.

  6. #105
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    Sonatia's Avatar
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    Sonatia Aureline
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Is is just me, or are the WoW refugees flooding the forums lately? Hyperbole (you're not supposed to have everything), pointless, intellectually bankrupt insults (you're all entitled babies, everything's handed on a plate etc) and downright misconceptions (THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHALLENGING BY GRINDDDDDDD). This is exactly how WoW forums tended to be when I left them years ago. Don't you people have a "classic" server to go back to? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    That said, I do agree the amount asked by the OP is a bit much. But +1 to the suggestion that the current amount of moog tomes should be doubled. The CT raids were never fun, but now people's idiocy has been increased by at least 200% because they want the dungeon to end faster. It's so pathetic to see half the raid crowd at the exit of the encounter doing nothing, hoping to sprint off. While leaving the other half to finish up the remaining mobs/boss. And with the current amount of moog tomes, we'll be seeing these people a bit longer than we should.
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  7. #106
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    If you want everything just spend maybe a month Same as you'd be doing on the tome grind building up your daily reps followed by a few hours of ex primals unsynched followed by a few hours of diadem with a group. would have ALL of the prizes aside from riding maps which are easily got by killing those level 50 A ranks Branks(when you're high enough rank in your GC) 4K allied seals later faster riding all through ARR land. 4 hunt trains and you got the riding maps for both hw and storm blood the only two things I see worth the grind is the Answers Orchestration and the Earrings.and the pets just do the raids associated with them until you get.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  8. #107
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatia View Post
    Is is just me, or are the WoW refugees flooding the forums lately?
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  9. #108
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    The only content at the moment that requires grinding and you ask for it to all be handed to you in a nice big basket ? instant gratification syndrome or ?
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  10. #109
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    This fine honestly. I relish any and every new reason to utterly despise MOOGLES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  11. #110
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatia View Post
    Is is just me, or are the WoW refugees flooding the forums lately? Hyperbole (you're not supposed to have everything), pointless, intellectually bankrupt insults (you're all entitled babies, everything's handed on a plate etc) and downright misconceptions (THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHALLENGING BY GRINDDDDDDD). This is exactly how WoW forums tended to be when I left them years ago. Don't you people have a "classic" server to go back to? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    That said, I do agree the amount asked by the OP is a bit much. But +1 to the suggestion that the current amount of moog tomes should be doubled. The CT raids were never fun, but now people's idiocy has been increased by at least 200% because they want the dungeon to end faster. It's so pathetic to see half the raid crowd at the exit of the encounter doing nothing, hoping to sprint off. While leaving the other half to finish up the remaining mobs/boss. And with the current amount of moog tomes, we'll be seeing these people a bit longer than we should.
    Only played WoW until level 20ish over a decade ago, sorry, but no WoW refugee here. Some things are just meant to be a grind. I really wonder how much of this game you've played. Grinds have been around here for... ages, in the base game, 1.0, and both expansions, in multiple forms. Atmas, the Yokai Watch event, Eureka, Anima weapons, beast tribes, custom deliveries. All of those are grinds, just different forms of them.


    Also, the CT raids are one of the better set IMO, though maybe thats because I did them when you didn't outgear them insanely.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 06-06-2019 at 12:13 PM.

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