Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
So I think it's a bit silly to suggest that all the WoD had to do was simply go look through "all of the options"...as if they had the luxury to do so AND the access to that information.
Well...

They had the time to go chase down an Ascian, convince them to teach them about how causing a Calamity on the Source can put everyone on their world into the aetherial sea, then teach them how to travel to the Source, travel to the Source and start the long process of trying to create an imbalance of dark enough to cause a Calamity (Knowing full well that there would be at least 1 WoL on the Source trying to prevent that).

Then there's also the time for us to spend post-beating them, where we could go off and liberate Doma and Ala Mhigo and THEN still have enough time to eventually be called to the First and THEN still have time to fix the place.

Sure, you can maybe argue that Minfilia, somehow, has magical goddess powers that even Hydaelyn herself doesn't have, so that she can somehow stem the spread of the Light after we beat the WoD's and that can cover the time we spent going through the Far East and Gyr Abania and the ensuing interactions with Imperials/Tsuyu/Shadowhunter/The Parley/Zenos/(Omega? I'm not sure if that's canon yet)

But still... There was no indication of them trying things and failing before resorting to Ascian help. Like, they come to the Source to create Darkness to cause a Calamity. And we're going to the FIRST to create DARKNESS to reverse the Flood of Light...

Did they try generating Darkness on their world? Like, literally the first thing that would come to anyone's mind when faced with the concept "Oh noes, there's too much Light because we got rid of all the Darkness! Whatever shall we do?"

Did they try fighting the Sin Eaters?

Did they do ANYTHING AT ALL?

They never mentioned that they attempted anything. They were not going "Our world was doomed by our own actions and nothing we tried helped". They were simply stating that their only course of action was to get aid from Ascians and come to the Source and cause a Calamity to rejoin their world.

Essentially, they come across as some of the worst "Heroes" ever. They talk about how they were fulfilling Hydaelyn's will by going around beating up Primals. Then something happens as a result of beating up Primals and they just give up and accept defeat because they can't beat up a Flood of Light... Until they learn from an Ascian that they can help their world by beating up Primals on the Source.

Like, yes, their world was in a terrible place. Yes, it was in part due to their actions. But it was never made apparent that the drastic measure of going to the Source and causing a Calamity was their last ditch effort after everything else they had tried ended in failure and that they didn't WANT to do it but felt they HAD to.

No, it just came across like they were petulant children and when they encountered something that was caused by their indiscriminate beating up of things, that was now causing their world to be destroyed, they started sulking and built up anger towards Hydaelyn to the point where it seems like they wanted to go F up the Source just to spite her and the whole "Return the First to the aetherial sea" thing was just icing.