Gunbreaker issues to fix from Media Tour.

[Bhearil]

Well, dont forget that Abyssal Drain needs at least 6 targets to make it even with Equilibrium/Aurora, and personally 150 shield+ 150 heal is better than 300 heal since many times it will just overheal, while the shielding part its always used (unless boss decides to stop atacking long enough for the shield to expire but thats an specific case)

[Lyth]

It's worth noting that the removal of Anticipation from the role actions system means that Parry-based cooldowns are going to be less effective than they were previously, because Critical Hits override Parry. WAR got off that train at exactly the right time with the Raw Intuition rework.

At the very least, Camouflage should incorporate some sort of incoming Crit prevention.

[Duskane]

alot of these a bound to change (besides Superbolide) since the media tour build is a build from late april early may
they have most likely changed alot of stuff

[Derio]

Really it just boils down to Hallowed and Holm being way too powerful compared to the other two tanks and that ultimately they will need to be nerfed or the other two will be buffed.

[Jojokomoko]

I think if Superbolide gets a lower CD time while also reset your Aurora CD, it would be much better.

[Duskane]

refreshing aurora might be much
maybe give it a 20% Heal boost like war just getting Conv added to the thrill of war

Heart of Stone also seems very good and very free too with a CD like that compared to TBN which cost MP a pretty needy resource on Drk
so wouldn't be surprised if they make Heart of stone cost a cartridge

[Kalise]

Heart of Stone also seems very good and very free too with a CD like that compared to TBN which cost MP a pretty needy resource on Drk
so wouldn't be surprised if they make Heart of stone cost a cartridge

TBN has a MP cost because it also generates a resource when used (or more accurately, when broken). TBN also has a lower CD than the other skills aside from Sheltron (Which is gated instead by Gauge generation)

Sheltron/Raw Intuition/Heart of Stone do not generate resources.

Heart of Stone is also weaker than all the other skills too. At only 15% damage reduction as opposed to 20-35% (Before any other modifiers, Sheltron), 25% (Raw Intuition) or a 25% HP shield (TBN)

Even the "Upside" of being able to toss your 150 potency shield from Brutal Shell to an ally with it is not that great... Given that PLD can literally just make someone take 0 damage with Cover or can pop Rampart/Sentinel to make Intervention give 20%/25% (35% if both are used) damage reduction, WAR can heal the ally with Nascent Flash and TBN is just outright 25% max HP shield for the target.

Gunbreaker's mitigation skills are just entirely inferior to every other Tanks and most certainly don't need to be nerfed.

[Duskane]

never said it needed it but i wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they went with it

[Cabalabob]

I don’t get why they made camouflage, they remove parry as a stat, they remove dark dance, they remove bulwark, they redesign raw intuition, they remove anticipation.... then add a new one....

And it’s not like they’re setting up gunbreaker as a physical tank to mirror dark knight’s magical focus (like HW paladin used to be). So the whole parry thing doesn’t make sense.

My only thought would be, maybe they’re upping natural parry rate to 50% meaning camouflage would be bringing it up to 100%? That way it would be 30% physical mitigation and 10% magical mitigation, without the possibility of it going up to 50% physical mitigation (if it was just a straight 30% physical mitigation it would go up to 50% by parrying).

But again, it’s not setup as a physical tank so why would they make that disparity between mitigation?

[Lyth]

I think that part of the assumption is that for raiding you're going to be doubling up on every single target tankbuster between yourself and your co-tank:

PLD/GNB: Shell + HoL (depends on Block DR) / HoL + Intervention (24+%)
WAR/GNB: RI + HoL (32%) / HoL + NF (24%)
DRK/GNB: TBN + HoL (32%) / HoL + TBN (32%)

You'll be stacking the rest of your cooldown suite (Rampart, 30% CDs, and ToB/DM/Camo) on top of this. It's hard to tell how much DR you're actually going to need this expansion, but going on previous tiers, I suspect this will already be more than enough. WAR is going to preferentially want to be the active tank in all combinations because of a bigger personal cooldown suite, Holmgang (and the damage reflect on Vengeance). Camo's main problem is that the effect is a bit silly (personally, I'd take 15% and drop the parry), but the single biggest problems is going to be the invulns. That really needs to be fixed before launch, and I'd like to see some sort of a dev statement that they're at least reviewing this.