Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

There's a big difference between ridicule and someone simply stating that they have no interest in feminine or androgynous aesthetics for male viera. I've proposed a compromise in the form of one base face adhering to those aesthetics alongside a muscle slider but with the women being designed to be conventionally attractive it makes sense for the men to be as such as well. A little rugged, perhaps, but still handsome - such as in the vein as Hien or the Warrior of Light as shown in cinematics.

Not everybody is going to agree and no matter how they are designed there will be those who are left disappointed, yet the general consensus through discussion has led to many people here agreeing that something along the lines of the viera in Lauront's signature would be ideal.

[Senn]

There's a big difference between ridicule and someone simply stating that they have no interest in feminine or androgynous aesthetics for male viera.

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

I just find it abhorrent to look at.

[SturmChurro]

Some new Shadowbringers concept art, maybe a cover image. A male viera gunbreaker.

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

[Senn]

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lol casually ignoring bad behavior when he does it, eh? I wonder why :^)

[Theodric]

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

I genuinely find it to be creepy. You've also suggested removing the fur and for the viera in the art to be made even slimmer which made me raise an eyebrow, I'll admit. If you want odd proportions then lalafell and elezen already exist. Viera women are both conventionally attractive and well proportioned, so I'd expect the men to be much the same.

Nobody is being ridiculed or insulted. Some of the art put forward is, sure, but that does not equal a personal attack - outside of cases where child-like characters are being presented in an inappropriate manner, in which case outrage is wholly justified.

lol casually ignoring bad behavior when he does it, eh? I wonder why :^)

Bad behaviour...?

[SturmChurro]

lol casually ignoring bad behavior when he does it, eh? I wonder why :^)

I mean, I don't even know him past he likes my art, I think.

[Senn]

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and I was told I was the one dancing around words and implications

[Theodric]

and I was told I was the one dancing around words and implications

I'm not at all sure what you want me to say. I don't care for those particular aesthetics, so I don't want male viera to look that way. It should not be a source of controversy and it isn't a personal attack.

If, for whatever reason, you happen to resemble the artwork then please be aware that I do not mean any offence with my posts. Again, as I stated, I simply do not find the aesthetics in that piece of art or those similar to it to be appealing in any way.

[Senn]

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The problem is going around calling people's preferred body type abhorrent. But alright, who cares.
What I'm saying now is that instead of putting down other's opinions, perhaps we should just support what we want instead. At the end of the day, you can say whatever you want, but I feel like it hasn't really been productive in this thread, and I worry it'll make people not want to post in fear of getting roped into a heated discussion.

[zeylos]

Guys, no need to keep fighting lol. We will most likely get the concept art or something like that come 6.0,and while it's cool to discuss about how you'd like them, it should just be a discussion, not an argument

Also, I wonder when will the next time when we hear about the missing genders be. I think that they might give an official (actual) response before 6.0, specially they'd likely confirm no missing genders on 6.0 a while before, based on how they said they'll manage player expectations better. My bet is that on 5.0 interviews this will get bringed up a lot, and at 5.0-5.1 they might give a response

I doubt they'd say anything until the fanfests of 6.0 or later if they were actually making them. They would likely announce them at a fanfest to draw in hype and excitement.

In the hypothetical case that for some reason SE decided not to do them for whatever reason, or if they know they can't come in 6.0, I'm quite possitive they'll give a response