Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

Okay, ignoring everything else you said because men have played as women forever without it having to be a fetish...

No one should ever read the RP bios in WoW's Goldshire. >>;; I've seen some dark and dangerous things in those that I'd call the cops for if I could. I took my RP as far from GS as I could lmao.

I just don't understand where people got the idea that Viera would automatically be this submissive twink race??? Or this child like race??? It's clearly stated in the lore right now that male viera are incredibly dangerous, live in solitude, and are rough and tough forest guardians. They're not braiding their hair with flowers and giving themselves the ole purp nurp for funsies. If anything, their hair should be wild and mane-like imo, they should be a relatively scowly looking race, and they should be decently muscular without hulking out or being frail, dainty little bois.

Yes, I play female characters without a fetish, don't take it further than gameplay, but let's not pretend there aren't men who aren't playing them for specific fetish reasons. There are countless weebs playing cat girls for that. It is highly prevalent in this game.

I'd love it if you could give them bodies as buff as the derplander in the cinematic. The MNK AF3 gives the illusion of it but yeah...

Yeah, I really don't like how fake "buff" midlanders are, even with the slider. They look like they are 16-17 yo most of the time, and the hairstyles don't even get me on the hairstyles more than I already have.. Please SE include the facial hair too!

[LittleChickenNugget]

Yes, I play female characters without a fetish, don't take it further than gameplay, but let's not pretend there aren't men who aren't playing them for specific fetish reasons. There are countless weebs playing cat girls for that. It is highly prevalent in this game.

Well, yeah. The mod community can attest to that. But I would dare to venture out and say that the majority of the males playing female characters are likely doing it for simpler reasons: better looking gear, MORE gear, generally better looking characters over all. No one is playing any kind of game to intentionally play an ugly character beyond making it a joke and not carrying it to end game. I would say most people are playing something they visually thoroughly enjoy and that in and of itself doesn't have to be sexual. I'm a female, I play my characters as absolutely pretty and busty as I can make them, sometimes I wear armor that makes sense, sometimes I'm a bikini mage. But I also play male characters and I make them as handsome and masculine as I can (hello Highlander daddy face) and dress them badass. Sometimes I make pretty boy Au Ra to have that pretty boy knight in shining armor affect. None of it is in favor of anything sexual, I'm not getting off to pixels, I'm not turning them into some kind of fetish.

I have like 10 alts. I can easily say: there are absolutely ways to make lovely pretty boys without needing to make them a "submissive", fetish twink.

[SturmChurro]

Well, yeah. The mod community can attest to that. But I would dare to venture out and say that the majority of the males playing female characters are likely doing it for simpler reasons: better looking gear, MORE gear, generally better looking characters over all. No one is playing any kind of game to intentionally play an ugly character beyond making it a joke and not carrying it to end game. I would say most people are playing something they visually thoroughly enjoy and that in and of itself doesn't have to be sexual. I'm a female, I play my characters as absolutely pretty and busty as I can make them, sometimes I wear armor that makes sense, sometimes I'm a bikini mage. But I also play male characters and I make them as handsome and masculine as I can (hello Highlander daddy face) and dress them badass. Sometimes I make pretty boy Au Ra to have that pretty boy knight in shining armor affect. None of it is in favor of anything sexual, I'm not getting off to pixels, I'm not turning them into some kind of fetish.

I have like 10 alts. I can easily say: there are absolutely ways to make lovely pretty boys without needing to make them a "submissive", fetish twink.

Yes, that is why I am. I will usually play both equally, if they are aesthetically pleasing to me.

Agreed, I actually don't even know what a "submissive" preset would even look like, and I highly doubt the viera would get that treatment. The females in general seem to look more stern for the most part; older than some of the other race's female counterparts - but can still look young and cute - with the same face! I think they were done very well. I think if they were to come out the males would look very similar. Masculine, maybe slightly aggressive presets. The elegant that someone described a page or two ago. Definitely not "submissive" though.