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  1. #51
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Either Bane, or Miasma II needs to come back because we have to have something other than Art of War spam for AoE. I'd say Miasma II because otherwise it's Biolysis > Bane > AoW for 30 seconds which isn't much more than we'll do otherwise. I'd Recommend Miasma II. Hit that, then AoW for 12s, miasma 2 again.

    It's pretty essential we get Energy Drain back as well. We have to have some sort of dump for Aether stacks and Lustrate/Excog/Indom ain't it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #52
    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    While I sympathize with players loosing SOO much of their class, its still kinda telling that scholars can loose all this and STILL be better than whm lol.
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  3. #53
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    While I sympathize with players loosing SOO much of their class, its still kinda telling that scholars can loose all this and STILL be better than whm lol.
    WHM is going to be hands down the best dungeon healer just by Holy alone. Doesn't matter in end game but they are better in that capacity.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  4. #54
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    WHM is going to be hands down the best dungeon healer just by Holy alone. Doesn't matter in end game but they are better in that capacity.
    Dungeons don't really matter, though...
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Keeping it just about SCH:
    by that standard (that nothing really matters until end-game raid content), it doesn't matter that SCH will need to spend 1-3 minutes pressing 1 or 2 buttons to defeat a single overworld monster, and will, thus, be co-dependent upon the DPS and tanks in order to proceed with any kind of battle content in the event that they want to avoid having to spend a significant amount of time on it.
    Even if it's supposed to be solo content.
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  6. #56
    Player
    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Dungeons don't really matter, though...
    It's like I addressed that if you had actually read what I typed.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #57
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    fantasticm's Avatar
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    WHM is going to be hands down the best dungeon healer just by Holy alone.
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    IanR's Avatar
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    Chris Redfield'
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 70
    art of war is is very disappointing skill with lame-ass animation. copied from pvp skill
    biolysis doesn't even look like poison.
    broil 3 is meh, i prefer broil.
    fey blessing is a potency joke
    embrace nerf is something acceptable but why pet potency scale still so confusing 150 basically is just above 100? what are you scared of square just be honest we all know you hate fairy.
    why not upgrade ruin2 to ruin 4 so we have some cool shit to spam in dungeon
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  9. #59
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    It's like I addressed that if you had actually read what I typed.
    Doesn't change that 'best dungeon healer' is a pretty crappy place to be in if you got nothing else going for you...
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  10. #60
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    Loki Vanheim
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Seriously in term of reactivity and fun SCH will sux now.

    In certain situations we have to react fast and apply some shields fast like we can do right now. In 5.0 our aoe shield will be nerf and Seraph can add some better shields but it will depend about a 2min recast...So we will have to think "omg we need shields" then summon Seraph, then ask her to do the action, and she will do it...aww but too late our co healer AST has applied his shields first looong time ago XD

    God it will be so borring now to play sch i cant believe it.
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