Scholar 5.0 Discussion

[Loki]

As main sch since the job has been available.....if everything you have said here is true.....well i think i'm done as healer.

I will test it but woow.....why SE want to simplify everything like this....

[Freerider]

I don't think anyone on the development team actually plays scholar. If they did they would realize that removing energy drain is effectively crippling us.

[Brandedblade]

I'm happy with what I see. ED kinda hurts to see but with QA removed and Sacred Soil being buffed it doesn't feel as doom and gloom. The gameplay flow of juggling your fairy and ogcd skills with preemptive shielding and high dps uptime still exists. It's just been streamlined to make it accessible to newer players.

Also Broil III and Biolysis are visually stunning so I have no qualms spamming them. Anything involving magical glyphs and circles are my jam.

[Brandedblade]

Oddly the tooltip on Sacred Soil says, "cannot be used with any other area-creating actions" when they removed the only other area creating action (ShadowFlare).

A 10 potency gain on Bio II > Biolysis. 10 dang potency increase. . .

Stuff like that shows me whoever is designing the healer jobs is incompetent or just really really doesn't know what they're doing.

10×10 ticks at 3 seconds= 100 potency.

[BunnyChain]

I quite miss the time when I was positively excited for new healer skills, without that feeling of dread - "How are they gonna screw it up this time?". Even back in HW when Dissipation got added, your new shiny 60 skill gives yourself a crutch. Now, 4 years later, they turned it into what it should have been from the start, auto summon faerie back and or quick faerie summon in general.

Skip forward to SB we got actual new interesting skills that again needed various tweaks before they became good/useable - your new shiny 70 skill aetherpact with its incredibly short range, continuous drain of faerie gauge even when the target is out of range, long wind up time, couldn't be interrupted by other skills - effectively locking you in. And of course they completely gutted aoe dps abilities, because they adjusted SMN and forgot about that other job which evolves from ACN. Then fixed it by bringing Miasma II back but also buffed healing potencies for some reason, was anyone even asking for that?

Fast forward to ShB and we are back with new abilities which are nice, though they increase healing once again to make everyone a different flavour of WHM; removal of even more dps aoe skills, again, and single target abilities too, etc. What SE seems to not understand is that a pet job kind of needs more emphasis on dots because you have a pet to manage.

[Enla]

If nothing else I'm hoping all this backlash /at least/ gets us Energy Drain back. The push back on 4.0 SCH saw use being given Miasma 2 and other quality of life changes, and while I don't expect to get our full suite of dots back, it'd be nice to at least get our aetherflow stack dump ability back.

[Freerider]

If I get energy drain back I'll stop complaining completely.

[Bonbori]

Look on the bright side! With all this ogcd downtime we now have, we might be able to squeeze in book autoattacks into our "rotation"! That's exciting!

Seriously tho. What in the world gave SE the idea that the people who specifically played Scholar and NOT White Mage wanted Scholar to become a 1:1 copy of White Mage? Did someone mix up the design documents? Did a coder accidentally ctrl+A+overwrite and save? What happened?

[RyuDragnier]

Look on the bright side! With all this ogcd downtime we now have, we might be able to squeeze in book autoattacks into our "rotation"! That's exciting!

Seriously tho. What in the world gave SE the idea that the people who specifically played Scholar and NOT White Mage wanted Scholar to become a 1:1 copy of White Mage? Did someone mix up the design documents? Did a coder accidentally ctrl+A+overwrite and save? What happened?

Yes, because we're a regen healer that does nothing except big burst heals...your statement was ridiculous. We are not like WHM, not in healing. Please stop posting hysterical nonsense just because we lost our DPS moves...our children, Miasma, Energy Drain, and Shadowflare. T_T

[Bonbori]

Yes, because we're a regen healer that does nothing except big burst heals...your statement was ridiculous. We are not like WHM, not in healing. Please stop posting hysterical nonsense just because we lost our DPS moves...our children, Miasma, Energy Drain, and Shadowflare. T_T

I probably should have clarified, I meant that in terms of the DPS rotation. I have no complaints about healing, that's always been fit for purpose in all types of content and nothing seems to have changed in that department. We still have more healing tools than necessary. But healing is not what a healer does most of the time. The majority of our activity is DPS, and with only 1 button to press every 29 seconds and only 1 button to spam in the meantime (Broil/Ruin depending on how much movement is needed) ShB SCH has become SB WHM. In fact... even worse than that. SB WHM at least has 2 buttons to reapply its dots and has to do that more often. Oh, and Assize! That's an ogcd offensive ability. Why don't we have one and they get to keep theirs?

Bottom line, SCH in ShB is set to lose most of what distinguished it from WHM during the lengthy periods of healing downtime that FF14 combat is designed around.