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  1. #11
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    In all seriousness I would like the next live letter to have the healers devs on to explain their thought process on these changes.
    I would as well, though like Rubiss stated I'm also of the mind that they don't actually have developers purely dedicated to balancing only healers. Because none of these changes are actually what anyone has been asking for. Not at a casual level, not at a midcore level, and certainly not at a high tier level in terms of skill. The only people who would be happy with these changes are the people who are allergic to even touching their DPS skills and don't mind the gross amount of downtime healers currently have.

    Now, I will /happily/ eat my words if it turns out we're getting a proper rebalance of content to match these changes. If everything from 1-80 is reworked in such a way to as make healers have more than 80% uptime for their casts, or even 70%, I'll zip my lip and just politely request a proper DPS rotation for 6.0. However I have a nasty feeling that the damage increase we're getting in 5.0 is about the same as what we got in Stormblood. A.k.a. - things hit slightly harder, but only the lowest common denominator will actually have trouble dealing with what's dished out to them. Which ultimately won't actually address healer balance in any meaningful way.

    I'm just hoping my gut is wrong. I want so badly for it to be wrong.
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  2. #12
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    At the very least how the community plays healers.

    WHY DO WE STILL HAVE SLEEP?!?! Who on the Dev team continues to defense REPOSE?!?
    Why does SCH still have Dissipation?

    If they're in a bad situation, removing the fairy is something they absolutely do NOT want to do. The only reason to use it before was to use Energy Drain more and we dont' have that.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #13
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    How do they decide how to balance this role.. Throwing darts, flipping a coin.
    It has to be something. I am very curious.

    I also wish to see who actually okayed these changes and explain what they thought, it sadly will never happen.
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  4. #14
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I'd say drawing cards, but we see how cards were treated this time around.
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  5. #15
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    The transition of AST between HW and SB to how they fixed some cards issues by adding new skills was perfect (Minor Arcana, Sleeve Draw, Discard).
    Honestly, It's the perfect job for me in this game during this expansion.
    And now, I don't know how they came up with this new card system and all those changes and nerf.
    It's really incomprehensible.
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    Last edited by Ceasaria; 05-31-2019 at 08:24 AM.

  6. #16
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    The transition of AST between HW and SB to how they fixed some cards issues by adding new skills was perfect (Minor Arcana, Sleeve Draw, Discard).
    Honestly, It's the perfect job for me in this game during this expansion.
    And now, I don't know how they came up with this new card system and all those changes and nerf.
    It's really incomprehensible.
    4.x AST was amazing. The card system was very fun and will be missed.
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  7. #17
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    To further this:

    Dear SE,

    Please get some healer devs.
    Here we go again. Same ol thread again. More armchair devs trying to give "feedback" when they do not even know what they are talking about. The changes are amazing yet people still want to complain. Healers are in such a good spot that more people are willinging to give it a chance. Bascially these post boil down to: "i didnt get what i want, so devs dont know what they are doing." At least TRY the changes before you pretend you know what you are talking about.
    (1)

  8. #18
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    Here we go again. Same ol thread again. More armchair devs trying to give "feedback" when they do not even know what they are talking about. The changes are amazing yet people still want to complain. Healers are in such a good spot that more people are willinging to give it a chance. Bascially these post boil down to: "i didnt get what i want, so devs dont know what they are doing." At least TRY the changes before you pretend you know what you are talking about.
    So amazing that even my friend, who just started the game, can see by comparing before and after that the changes are garbage, so he's now deadset to not even try SCH and stick to SMN. Really, amazing changes!
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  9. #19
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    Lavitz Orlandeau
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    Here we go again. Same ol thread again. More armchair devs trying to give "feedback" when they do not even know what they are talking about. The changes are amazing yet people still want to complain. Healers are in such a good spot that more people are willinging to give it a chance. Bascially these post boil down to: "i didnt get what i want, so devs dont know what they are doing." At least TRY the changes before you pretend you know what you are talking about.
    Nay'sayers aren't any better. I suppose you have proof that more people are willing to give it healers a chance? If anything I expect more WAR to show up.

    We'll just have to see what happens when it hits, but I'm just gonna keep sitting on WHM, the changes to the other two give me no reason to shift if Healing is all SE wants the 3 to do. I'm already on the 'best' healer already if that's the case.
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  10. #20
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    fantasticm's Avatar
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    We'll just have to see what happens when it hits, but I'm just gonna keep sitting on WHM, the changes to the other two give me no reason to shift if Healing is all SE wants the 3 to do. I'm already on the 'best' healer already if that's the case.
    If you want to play the best healer you should main SCH LOL... but I get what you're saying. Sad state of affairs.
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