Dear healer devs,

[Jxnibbles]

How do they decide how to balance this role.. Throwing darts, flipping a coin.
It has to be something. I am very curious.

I also wish to see who actually okayed these changes and explain what they thought, it sadly will never happen.

[Hustensaft]

How do they decide how to balance this role.. Throwing darts, flipping a coin.

By turning WHM, AST and SCH into different skin variations of the healer archetype... Design one gameplay style, apply three skins to it, and sell it as three classes.

[Ilenya]

I'd say drawing cards, but we see how cards were treated this time around.

[Ceasaria]

The transition of AST between HW and SB to how they fixed some cards issues by adding new skills was perfect (Minor Arcana, Sleeve Draw, Discard).
Honestly, It's the perfect job for me in this game during this expansion.
And now, I don't know how they came up with this new card system and all those changes and nerf.
It's really incomprehensible.

[Ayer2015]

The transition of AST between HW and SB to how they fixed some cards issues by adding new skills was perfect (Minor Arcana, Sleeve Draw, Discard).
Honestly, It's the perfect job for me in this game during this expansion.
And now, I don't know how they came up with this new card system and all those changes and nerf.
It's really incomprehensible.

4.x AST was amazing. The card system was very fun and will be missed.

[Darkpaw]

Im all for healers giving out their early opinions on what they see if they present them as opinions and reactions based on limited information and previous experiences and recurring cycles throughout this game. But please stop insulting the dev team by saying they dont listen to their fan base.

They actually do more to listen to their fanbase than most of you give them credit for. The people upset by the changes you meet while it may seem like a lot. In actuality its more likely a fraction of a percent up to maybe a percent. This forum the official subreddit and the people you meet in game is not the majority. In fact while there is some rumblings of concern in the JP forums most are pretty accepting of things for now. At least until they have more facts by experiencing it themselves.

Which is something we should be doing ourselves. I am not saying shut up and smile and take it without saying a word. Just, put your feedback out as YOUR personal feeling based on info that you have seen, and your personal opinions. Stop presenting these as hard facts. They arent nor can they be. Because what information you got is from a two month old development build. A ton can change before launch and much has probably changed in the month and a half between that build and the build they have now a few days after media tour.

[Urthdigger]

Im all for healers giving out their early opinions on what they see if they present them as opinions and reactions based on limited information and previous experiences and recurring cycles throughout this game. But please stop insulting the dev team by saying they dont listen to their fan base.

They actually do more to listen to their fanbase than most of you give them credit for. The people upset by the changes you meet while it may seem like a lot. In actuality its more likely a fraction of a percent up to maybe a percent. This forum the official subreddit and the people you meet in game is not the majority. In fact while there is some rumblings of concern in the JP forums most are pretty accepting of things for now. At least until they have more facts by experiencing it themselves.

Which is something we should be doing ourselves. I am not saying shut up and smile and take it without saying a word. Just, put your feedback out as YOUR personal feeling based on info that you have seen, and your personal opinions. Stop presenting these as hard facts. They arent nor can they be. Because what information you got is from a two month old development build. A ton can change before launch and much has probably changed in the month and a half between that build and the build they have now a few days after media tour.

I think you're vastly overestimating how much can change in 2 months. A lot of these would need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Also, there's a thing called sample sizes. Yeah, I'm only talking to a minority of the playerbase. But you're implying that literally all the people I don't talk to LOVE these changes, I simply have the bad luck to only meet the sour apples.

[Ayer2015]

I think you're vastly overestimating how much can change in 2 months. A lot of these would need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Also, there's a thing called sample sizes. Yeah, I'm only talking to a minority of the playerbase. But you're implying that literally all the people I don't talk to LOVE these changes, I simply have the bad luck to only meet the sour apples.

Logic isn't welcome here

[Darkpaw]

I think you're vastly overestimating how much can change in 2 months. A lot of these would need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Also, there's a thing called sample sizes. Yeah, I'm only talking to a minority of the playerbase. But you're implying that literally all the people I don't talk to LOVE these changes, I simply have the bad luck to only meet the sour apples.

Thats not what i am suggesting at all thats an extreme tally of what i am actually saying. Yes the feedback needs to begin but do so by stating facts and not assuming everyone is with you. Theres no hard factual basis for what the majority is for either side for or against or even indifferent.

As for the overestimating. No i know that these changes will take time but to revert changes reverts the arguments back to what they have always been. To be clear. I am a machinist main, believe me I know how long changes can take to happen. I waited two years through stormblood for my favorite job not to be a jank clunky dumpster fire. That's why I got into healing more throughout stormblood.

Scholars yes have taken a pretty severe blow to their dps core and no assurances they will have to heal anymore than what they need to. And unless those changes to the battle system are made something does need to be addressed about their concerns. But you play healer to heal so i can understand adding a bit more depth in the dps adding a few back couldnt hurt

Astro and the card issues. First and foremost. Lets all remember astro cards have never been balanced. Theres a clear winner a distant second place and then lightyears between those two and the rest. Spread and royal road and time dialation caused astro to be the problem child of the healer corps. The seal system could be interesting additional depth but everything being flat balances not exactly the best solution.

Whm- no rdps utility. Still and this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Bravery and faith are two ive felt could fit whm really well..

So yes either content needs to be redesigned to refocus healers on healing or healers need some tweaks to make them feel a bit better. Screaming the sky is falling is not a solution. Be rationale with feedback. And speak for yourself not others. If others want their voices heard they can come do it themselves they dont need you to do it for them

[Mortex]

Well be happy no 4 healer but great job balancing. Pretty sure they needed a new spot for SB mch job Designer and there whas space in the healer team and expect more white hole mechanics for healer.