Summoner 5.0 changes - summoning -

[Sarantai]

Omg, an actual egi thread that isn’t all about asking them to be removed! I thought I was alone! *reads the thread* Okay, so only half of them want egi’s removed. I can live with that.

So hi, nice to meet you, I’m new here. Never posted before today because I was scared of toxicity and stuff. (Also just wanted to play my games, not argue over them) but that changed, I guess, and I just wanted to add my two cents in and say that I hope they keep egis in the game, and put my vote down for more glamours.

I probably don’t come from the same place as a lot of you here, because I am a role player, not a raider. Gameplay has never mattered as much to me as story, and as such I’ve personally always loved having egi’s by my side at all times, in and out of combat. Roleplaying Titan as a floating ball of grumpiness has brought me joy for years and I don’t want that to go away.

I suppose I’m really coming out to say this now because with the changes coming next month I feel both a lot of hope and fear for my favorite class in the game. Adding a second Demi-summon seems to follow the desires of both sides of the egi-debate; in my case, it’s familiar behavior and mechanics to Demi-Bahamut make me feel like maybe they can find a way to make glamours work for the others too.

That’s about all I wanted to say for now, but I’ll end this discussion by noting that I’ve seen some few toxic posts earlier in the thread by people on both sides of the issue, and I hope that we can move past that and keep discussing our ideas without descending into bullying or worse. Thank you all, and have a nice time in the First.

[Gallus]

Omg, an actual egi thread that isn’t all about asking them to be removed! I thought I was alone! *reads the thread* Okay, so only half of them want egi’s removed. I can live with that.

So hi, nice to meet you, I’m new here. Never posted before today because I was scared of toxicity and stuff. (Also just wanted to play my games, not argue over them) but that changed, I guess, and I just wanted to add my two cents in and say that I hope they keep egis in the game, and put my vote down for more glamours.

I probably don’t come from the same place as a lot of you here, because I am a role player, not a raider. Gameplay has never mattered as much to me as story, and as such I’ve personally always loved having egi’s by my side at all times, in and out of combat. Roleplaying Titan as a floating ball of grumpiness has brought me joy for years and I don’t want that to go away.

I suppose I’m really coming out to say this now because with the changes coming next month I feel both a lot of hope and fear for my favorite class in the game. Adding a second Demi-summon seems to follow the desires of both sides of the egi-debate; in my case, it’s familiar behavior and mechanics to Demi-Bahamut make me feel like maybe they can find a way to make glamours work for the others too.

That’s about all I wanted to say for now, but I’ll end this discussion by noting that I’ve seen some few toxic posts earlier in the thread by people on both sides of the issue, and I hope that we can move past that and keep discussing our ideas without descending into bullying or worse. Thank you all, and have a nice time in the First.

Ok so let's say for a moment that instead of an untargetable Titan Egi flying around next to you you have an untargeteable Demi Bahamut/Phoenix (keep them small sized in cities for the sake of convenience, imagine Limsa with a legion of SMNs with their L sized Bahamuts out).

How does that change anything to you? Are you really telling me that you prefer the design of Titan-egi or Garuda-egi to the one from the two Demis...?

[Jandor]

I'd honestly just prefer the egi to be essentially "stances" these days.

Just have it hover around you auto-attacking your target with 3 SMN abilities for control: AoE attack, some kind of party assist and the big enkindle, have them change depending on whether it's Summon I/II/III/IV.

Hey, you know what, not that far off.

[Sarantai]

Ok so let's say for a moment that instead of an untargetable Titan Egi flying around next to you you have an untargeteable Demi Bahamut/Phoenix (keep them small sized in cities for the sake of convenience, imagine Limsa with a legion of SMNs with their L sized Bahamuts out).

How does that change anything to you? Are you really telling me that you prefer the design of Titan-egi or Garuda-egi to the one from the two Demis...?

It has nothing to do with their design! What I’m afraid of is removing Egi entirely, replacing them with 20-Second phases or instant attacks that can only be activated in combat. I listen to people who say that summoner isn’t summoner unless you’re summoning full-size primals that do one big attack and go away, and when I hear that I think ‘wait, how will I be able to summon them in my house then?’ If you want to make them look like their original avatars that’s one thing, but if you want to take away my pets and make them nuke buttons then I have to something to say!

[Dyvid]

Ok so let's say for a moment that instead of an untargetable Titan Egi flying around next to you you have an untargeteable Demi Bahamut/Phoenix (keep them small sized in cities for the sake of convenience, imagine Limsa with a legion of SMNs with their L sized Bahamuts out).

How does that change anything to you? Are you really telling me that you prefer the design of Titan-egi or Garuda-egi to the one from the two Demis...?

Some people do like Egi design though. I like Ifrit and Titan personally. Plus it gives summoning Bahamut and Phoenix that much more of an impact to see this large Primal summoned. It would feel cheap if you just shrink them down and always have them follow you, almost like a minion. Plus they also said they are look at Egi Glamour for 5.1 so we might get some new Egi Designs you prefer.

[Sarantai]

Some people do like Egi design though. I like Ifrit and Titan personally. Plus it gives summoning Bahamut and Phoenix that much more of an impact to see this large Primal summoned. It would feel cheap if you just shrink them down and always have them follow you, almost like a minion. Plus they also said they are look at Egi Glamour for 5.1 so we might get some new Egi Designs you prefer.

Wait, they actually said that? Where? When? Please don't be joking, I've wanted this for so long!

[Len]

Wait, they actually said that? Where? When? Please don't be joking, I've wanted this for so long!

Don’t get your hopes up, but during the media tour YoshiP was asked about it and said that they were working on it for 5.1 at the earliest.

https://www.cgmagonline.com/2019/05/...naoki-yoshida/ - At the bottom.

Visually, it’s going to be weird having glamours on egis but then their attacks/abilities stay the same.

[Dyvid]

Don’t get your hopes up, but during the media tour YoshiP was asked about it and said that they were working on it for 5.1 at the earliest.

https://www.cgmagonline.com/2019/05/...naoki-yoshida/ - At the bottom.

Visually, it’s going to be weird having glamours on egis but then their attacks/abilities stay the same.

I would assume they would slight alter the attack appearance to make it work for the glamour. Maybe the are going to take my other suggest and divide the glamour into melee and caster for easier design. For example Ramuh would be caster and just reskin Summon I with lightning attacks, then Levi would be melee and reskin with water.

[Raikai]

I hope they extend the pet glam to SCH too, since the two faeries already will get to be only a cosmetic choice.

[Lauront]

I hope they extend the pet glam to SCH too, since the two faeries already will get to be only a cosmetic choice.

Moogles, pixies, sylphs...