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  1. #81
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    Bhearil's Avatar
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 52
    Yeah thats an issue. On hardest content GNB looks like a great OT but a not so good MT due to having some "meh" defence skills. On normal content it will be no issue. Lets all hope jobs get some last minute improvements even if its only potency/cds/effects
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    Last edited by Bhearil; 05-31-2019 at 07:18 AM.

  2. #82
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    Blaen Kemp
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I might be switching to GNB as well... the only thing holding me back is the calculated dps for GNB is supposedly pretty bad. That's an easy fix though. Drk needs a more complicated fix. Either way I hope this is, at the very least, acknowledged as an issue in the next live letter in a couple weeks.
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  3. #83
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Yeah, I consider switching too. Why should I play DRK when there is GNB wich looks like so much more fun? Also no stupid ressource-tied on demand cooldown and enough fluff mitigation for large dungeon pulls...

    Only problem is raiding... I think I signed up to take the maintank post besides a WAR / GNB. DRK as MT and GNB as OT would work well... but GNB as MT and WAR as OT? Weeeell... how do I tell my raidgroup about this idea? xD
    My co tank is talking about switching from PLD to DRK.. And I'm like, "mannnnn idk about that right now". I know he's played PLD for a long time and probably wants a change.. But PLD is a damn good job so it's a tough call.

    WAR has a little bit better defensive suite for MT'ing but I don't think it'd be any problem for them to be an OT. If you are struggling with CDs you can always just swap, you already know Holmgang will be up for every TB
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  4. #84
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    Jojokomoko's Avatar
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    Kai Rangriz
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    My co tank is talking about switching from PLD to DRK.. And I'm like, "mannnnn idk about that right now".
    I mean if he really likes the aesthetic of the job, then would it really hurt your entire raid group because he switches to DRK?
    I know DRK needs some changes right now but if you're not really going for an absolute min-max optimization for your raid, then I don't think it's really that big of a problem.
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  5. #85
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I don't think that GNB's personal mitigation sucks as much as people make it. Camouflage might be weak but he can use Heart of Stone on himself to complement it and he has the Brutal Shell shield too. We also still have Rampart on every tank. Aurora will be very nice as well. The tools he can use to support the MT can also be used on himself so... I don't see any reason for it to not be a good MT.
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  6. #86
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Yeah thats an issue. On hardest content GNB looks like a great OT but a not so good MT due to having some "meh" defence skills. On normal content it will be no issue. Lets all hope jobs get some last minute improvements even if its only potency/cds/effects
    the numbers for GNB right now a fairly low it seems its dps is weak compared to others and its mitigation is fairly average
    its guaranteed to change and well GNB has the potential to be a good MT and OT
    Brutal shell really stands out to me when i think about MT with GNB
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  7. #87
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    Bhearil's Avatar
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 52
    Exaclty, GNB problem is only a numbers one, their gameplay seems quite solid, and they WILL get buffed since they are quite below the third tank dps wise, so its not an small damage difference unless they want people to completely ignore GNB since it deals by far the least damage on a dps metagame.

    The only thing that probably wont be buffed are those pesky crappy defense cds, which i hope im proven wrong
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  8. #88
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    camouflage is bound to change
    superbolide is the one im not confident about them changing as they are always a bit iffy on changing these insurance skills
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  9. #89
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    SE gave every tank a two-step AOE combo, a gap closer, and Inner Release. This is very much worth complaining about, and Paladin and Warrior still pretty much play the exact same way - even more so now in Shadowbringers. Why people are okay with this hideous level of homogenization, while Dark Knight gets to just be badly designed off in a corner, is beyond me.

    It's shit, chief.
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  10. #90
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I expect GNB potencies to increase. Especially since the build was from April. Most likely they will fix the potency of each weaponskill and it will be WAR GNB DNC NIN Free slot Free Slot WHM AST for Meta
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