DRK redesign details explained

[Renato]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1jo_HKxT3w

So what do you all think?

THIS is what I've been waiting for. I don't even care about the new jobs or races, I'm more excited about having to relearn my favorite job.

I'm really liking the Tank Mastery trait and the Grit redesign. I literally yelled 'YES" from my desk at work after hearing that Soul Eater doesn't require grit to heal HP now. That was one of the biggest gripes as a DRK main...the fact that the other two tanks have great single target healing abilities while the dark depends on AoE groups for ample healing. Seems like Dark Arts is built into certain attacks now and the affects are slightly different, instead of amplifying certain attacks, it unlocks two new skills that are only usuable while under the Dark Arts.

The new attacks sound pretty cool. Overall, the redesign reminds me a bit of DRG and having to keep the Eye active for the DPS increase.

EDIT: After finding more in-depth info

I'm going to hold my criticism until I actually play the game. Sure, things were taken away but there is a lot of good with this too.

Even though, DRK was known for Dark Arts Spam, it seems like they'll be an ability spam class now trying to get off as many attacks while under Delirium (which is the DRK equivalant to Inner Release. Blood Weapon doesn't increase SkS anymore but instantly gives 600MP for every GCD that you do and 10 Blood Gauge. Delirium makes Blood Spiller and Quiteus require no MP and gives MP per attack.

It also seems like we'll be more TBN dependent not only for mitigation but for the MP restoration since it no longer gives Blood Points but mana to use for new Dark Side abilities, Flood/Edge of Shadow which are basically your dark arts spam except now it's built into one big damage move. Still want to manage enough mana for TBN.

Unleash now has an AoE combo ability that gives 20 blood gauge and no longer requires mana. Abyssal Drain is a 60 second oCD AoE Heal. Quietus can be spammed while under (I saw up to 5 times on a playthrough vid while under Delirium.) and still restores MP and does damage.

Flood/Edge of Shadow are basically your dark arts spam except now it's built into one big damage move. Still want to manage enough mana for TBN.

Other than that, not much has changed and I'm ok with that. I like the removal of Darkside and Dark Arts. I like the removal of the enmity combos since they weren't used much anyway. This seems to be a complaint I'm seeing often but with all the new skills that seem to be weavable, I'm not complaining.

It's different but I'm still excited. I've stuck with DRK all this time for the last 3 years and I don't plan on switching.

[shao32]

terrible just terrible, living dead is still the same and DRK self-healing from souleater and new abyssal drain aren't going to save him from this specially abyssal drain that have a new 60 second recast and it's a dps gain no matter what so you wont have it when you need the heal.
it doesn't have a big self-heal CD like the rest, dark missionary it's again magic damage only, that make it the worse of the aoe protections if something dare to be physical and they just copy paste inner release without crit-direct hit on delirium? i still wanna see the final numbers comparations from the theorycrafting wizards but DRK looks underwhelming, and why in the seven hells holmgang stay on 180 recast?

[Renato]

Keep in mind that nothing is final. Potencies and attacks can change when the final version of the game is released.

[WhyAmIHere]

LETS ALSO POINT OUT DARK MISSIONARY IS WEAKER THAN GNB'S OWN VERSION.

A STRAIGHT UP INFERIOR MODEL TO IT'S PEER; THAT'S DRK'S WHOLE IDENTITY.

[DRKoftheAzure]

I watched DRK video first and my response was literally "THANKS FOR NERFING MY CLASS/JOB SQUARE-ENIX" and then saw GNB video and my literal reaction for that was "Sweet! GNB seems way better than DRK I'm definitely switching to from DRK to GNB now!"

So yeah DRK got MNK'd this expansion...

[shao32]

i know, and i really hope the invu are revised but right know on what i can see DRK have the worse utility and invu on what they show us.

[Dalmacus]

Oh my god here i thought DRK will get it's moment to shine but nope it's even worst. Damage nerf across, garbage utility magic dmg reduce again?! Abyssal drain 60s what is even the point of this.

[PangTong]

Doesn't feel like they improved it at all. They cut down on Dark Arts spam a little, but now you're just spamming Edge/Flood of Shadow instead, just not as much. Everything else is basically the same.

And what's crazy is that one of the single biggest complaints about DRK, that they only have one weaponskill combo that they spam over and over, WAS NOT ADDRESSED. They still just do 1-2-3 Souleater. EVERY other tank has at least a second combo ender. Not only that but we're losing one of DRK's best animations: Power Slash.

Their raidwide mitigation cooldown is strictly worse than all three other tanks because it only applies to magic damage. Dark Mind still only applies to magic damage. Living Dead still kills you without a 100% heal. Delirium is now just a DRK-flavoured Inner Release. Abyssal Drain is now on a 60s cooldown with a wimpy self-heal. But... at least we get to summon Fray?

I can't really say they made DRK worse than it currently is, but I don't think I can say they made it better, either.

[WhyAmIHere]

Amazing. 5.0 is supposed to be the DRK expansion, and this is what we get?

We only have one GCD combo.
We only get an AoE magic damage resistance skill, not a party-wide shield or nothing.
Darkside is now a "maintain at all times" upkeep trait.
Dark Arts is some new fangled mess. Enjoy having those rare moments where it doesn't break once you out-gear content and feeling like it's a wasted skill.
Living Dead can still kill you.
Power Slash was used in the teaser video, and was removed. (This is just a personal gripe)
Delirium is now a DRK Inner Release.
Enjoy pressing 1 2 3 with bloodspillers inbetween for the next two years. Such a fun premise.

This is so underwhelming that even the Jojo reference isn't enough to keep me playing this job come expansion.

[DemonicNeko]

terrible just terrible, living dead is still the same and DRK self-healing from souleater and new abyssal drain aren't going to save him from this specially abyssal drain that have a new 60 second recast and it's a dps gain no matter what so you wont have it when you need the heal.
it doesn't have a big self-heal CD like the rest, dark missionary it's again magic damage only, that make it the worse of the aoe protections if something dare to be physical and they just copy paste inner release without crit-direct hit on delirium? i still wanna see the final numbers comparations from the theorycrafting wizards but DRK looks underwhelming, and why in the seven hells holmgang stay on 180 recast?

I am with you on this. For the changes they did. They could have easy brought this in to Stormblood. This was not a rework. I love how they even buffed soul survivor only to delete it. No, I was expecting us to get a rework like on the same level of MCH. Which do not get me wrong. I am glad MCH got a massive rework but honestly we are the poster child for this expansion and we are looking like one of the weakest tanks in the expansion. WTF is square doing.

I watched DRK video first and my response was literally "THANKS FOR NERFING MY CLASS/JOB SQUARE-ENIX" and then saw GNB video and my literal reaction for that was "Sweet! GNB seems way better than DRK I'm definitely switching to from DRK to GNB now!"

So yeah DRK got MNK'd this expansion...

I am sadly with you. After first I was excited but then I was like. Hmmmmm not enough changed for me to count this as rework. Infact it seems like a downgrade. Is it sad I would rather have dark art spam over the nerfed DRK? I think this might be the first expansion where the poster child class is the worse class.

Amazing. 5.0 is supposed to be the DRK expansion, and this is what we get?

We only have one GCD combo.
We only get an AoE magic damage resistance skill, not a party-wide shield or nothing.
Darkside is now a "maintain at all times" upkeep trait.
Dark Arts is some new fangled mess. Enjoy having those rare moments where it doesn't break once you out-gear content and feeling like it's a wasted skill.
Living Dead can still kill you.
Power Slash was used in the teaser video, and was removed. (This is just a personal gripe)
Delirium is now a DRK Inner Release.
Enjoy pressing 1 2 3 with bloodspillers inbetween for the next two years. Such a fun premise.

This is so underwhelming that even the Jojo reference isn't enough to keep me playing this job come expansion.

Do not forget Delirium is now bastard version of Inner Release. No crit, direct hit buff on it.