BLM seems to have been left in the dust (and raise MUST BE removed on SMN/RDM)

[TraeSnow]

If smn didn't have raise, you would be correct. Raise is a utility that needs to come at a price. Even to have access to.

If total contribution between blm and smn were equal and you need one caster in your static, do you take caster with raise, or no raise when the total dps is equal either way? It's no contest, and why smn dominated blm the majority of SB up until alphascape

That is actually a fair point. I overlooked raise being part of their utility. Even if we don't use it, we still have access to it, so it should count.

[Zerathor]

That is actually a fair point. I overlooked raise being part of their utility. Even if we don't use it, we still have access to it, so it should count.

Truthfully that's why I think smn should lose it and rdm verraise be more restricted, while putting smn total dps equal to blm and rdm very slightly behind. So you can make a group for prog or general clears playing the job you want to play for its playstyle, and not get shoehorned into playing a raise caster because a party wants an easy way out. That might make raid content actually last longer than a couple days before getting cleared as well.

And if that's not the case (it never will be) I at least want pure damage jobs to have enough of a raw lead on damage to make them more appealing for losing utilities that powerful.

[Maero]

@ Zerathor

Smn still has lots of utility, i kind of admit i did not look much at what 5.0 smn will get but it's total dmg should not equal to that of blm which does not have the utility.
I do get what you are saying and agree in part, just not that smn should have equal dmg to blm is all

[Zerathor]

@ Zerathor

Smn still has lots of utility, i kind of admit i did not look much at what 5.0 smn will get but it's total dmg should not equal to that of blm which does not have the utility.
I do get what you are saying and agree in part, just not that smn should have equal dmg to blm is all

Oh for sure. I just meant if they had no raise, I would be alright with smn total contribution being near blm level. They still have it, so their total contribution should be lower. And by total, I include how much damage they give to other jobs with things like devotion.

[SaberMaxwell]

As a RDM main, I agree OP. Raise is a healer utility, not a dps one; it should either be constrained or removed entirely from the Caster role.

[M1551NGN0]

Oh geez. Zzzlol94 is back and still at it since the beginning of Stormblood.

As a RDM main, I agree OP. Raise is a healer utility, not a dps one; it should either be constrained or removed entirely from the Caster role.

Level 56 RDM. wat

[SaberMaxwell]

Oh geez. Zzzlol94 is back and still at it since the beginning of Stormblood.



Level 56 RDM. wat

Alt character.

[Maero]

Oh for sure. I just meant if they had no raise, I would be alright with smn total contribution being near blm level. They still have it, so their total contribution should be lower. And by total, I include how much damage they give to other jobs with things like devotion.

Fair enough
I hope 5.0 will be great for all casters