SE the majority of healers want damage abilities

[Ilenya]

Right now we actually have no idea how much we will need GCD heals in ShB. Whatever it is, Afflatus spells don't cost MP and are instant; I'd start planning on using them if you are not already. Also, please explain how Misery is a DPS loss. I really want to hear your reasoning behind how a 900 potency offensive skill available every 90s is a loss to pDPS.

In a vacuum, you are giving up 3 300 potency attacks on healing for a 900 potency attack on your fourth GCD. Just using...Whatever the new attack is 4 times in a row is 1200 potency.

[Gemina]

In a vacuum, you are giving up 3 300 potency attacks on healing for a 900 potency attack on your fourth GCD. Just using...Whatever the new attack is 4 times in a row is 1200 potency.

Makes sense, from strictly an optimal DPS GCD perspective in a scenario where healing is not required. Another perspective I have is Misery makes up for the three GCDs you just spent on healing. Obviously, we are going to still use GCDs for damage if healing isn't needed. However, if GCDs must be spent on healing, Solace and Rapture are your go-to's before resorting to Cure 2 and Medica. The scenario you provided is also ST, and Misery is AoE. We can't just look at savage when it comes to the effectiveness of abilities.

[Ilenya]

Makes sense, from strictly an optimal DPS GCD perspective in a scenario where healing is not required. Another perspective I have is Misery makes up for the three GCDs you just spent on healing. Obviously, we are going to still use GCDs for damage if healing isn't needed. However, if GCDs must be spent on healing, Solace and Rapture are your go-to's before resorting to Cure 2 and Medica. The scenario you provided is also ST, and Misery is AoE. We can't just look at savage when it comes to the effectiveness of abilities.

That's why I said in a vacuum, to be fair. To me, it feels more like something returned for having to GCD heal.

Haha, when my healers told me it was a loss I said "but you can't use EVERY gcd on attack spells" to which they both replied "actually yes you can"

So I gave up lol

I mean, if we are lucky, you are right, but...

[Gemina]

That's why I said in a vacuum, to be fair. To me, it feels more like something returned for having to GCD heal.

Gotcha. I tend to look at it the same way, and don't consider a return a loss. We'll have to see, but I don't think we are going to be able to avoid GCD healing entirely like we have in the past. Need to see if any final adjustments are made to ogcd heals when the xpac drops.

[whiskeybravo]

Makes sense, from strictly an optimal DPS GCD perspective in a scenario where healing is not required. Another perspective I have is Misery makes up for the three GCDs you just spent on healing. Obviously, we are going to still use GCDs for damage if healing isn't needed. However, if GCDs must be spent on healing, Solace and Rapture are your go-to's before resorting to Cure 2 and Medica. The scenario you provided is also ST, and Misery is AoE. We can't just look at savage when it comes to the effectiveness of abilities.

Haha, when my healers told me it was a loss I said "but you can't use EVERY gcd on attack spells" to which they both replied "actually yes you can"

So I gave up lol