Using autism and cancer in comments and as a derogatory term...

[Iscah]

I'm not going to waste a post due to the old post banhammer coming down on my head again I feel I need to save my limited posts to more important views ... oops!

You seem to be quite adamant that using "moron" is okay. This is not helping your argument (and I say this as someone on your side of it).

If you use a term that you didn't realise might be offensive (and are shown why it's offensive), you apologise, back off and don't use the term again. Don't insist it's fine while trying to argue why another term is offensive.

It shouldn't even need historical context. I've known since I was a kid that "moron" isn't a nice thing to call someone, and certainly not what you use to look like the rational person in an argument. I'd let it slide in your first post or two where you just seemed upset and maybe not phrasing things the best way (that, and I forgot to comment on it after writing the rest of my original reply to the thread) but now you're just clinging to the term and arguing that it's acceptable.

Please reconsider. Realise what you're doing by insisting on defending your use of it.

You are undermining your own argument.

[SerLuke]

You seem to be quite adamant that using "moron" is okay. This is not helping your argument (and I say this as someone on your side of it).

If you use a term that you didn't realise might be offensive (and are shown why it's offensive), you apologise, back off and don't use the term again. Don't insist it's fine while trying to argue why another term is offensive.

It shouldn't even need historical context. I've known since I was a kid that "moron" isn't a nice thing to call someone, and certainly not what you use to look like the rational person in an argument. I'd let it slide in your first post or two where you just seemed upset and maybe not phrasing things the best way (that, and I forgot to comment on it after writing the rest of my original reply to the thread) but now you're just clinging to the term and arguing that it's acceptable.

Please reconsider. Realise what you're doing by insisting on defending your use of it.

You are undermining your own argument.

Pretty much this.

JustJon, if I might assume for a moment that you have autism spectrum disorder since you don’t approve of people using the term autism in this fashion? I’m here with you too friend I have autism spectrum disorder as well, I’ve had to learn while I might not fully understand social norms and ques I must be open to criticism on them and learn esp if it’s a criticism that has come from a lot of people. Now I’m not saying listen to everyone all the time or that or criticism is correct but part of dealing with my Aspergers was realizing I had to retrain myself in the way I dealt with certain situations even if it contradicted how I felt a situation should go or how my feelings were. I didn't realize certain actions of mine were taken a certain way so I had to train myself to act differently in certain situations/

[Alucard135]

OP would probably have a heart attack and make 10 more threads if he read Hydatos shout chat yesterday lol.

-Is saying heart attack offensive?-

[RyuujinZERO]

TIL I'm intolerant of myself.

- One of OP's former FC members



Seriously though. Soul Assassin here dropped out of our company with nary a word said leaving us all scratching our heads; doubly so because he'd vanished off our friends lists too suggesting he didn't just leave the FC; but completely abandoned the shard and left us with no way to ask him what happened.

I've seen the "Your DPS gave me cancer" quote before; but I feel he's leaving out an important context: It was in the form of a multi-line ASCII macro of a moogle lying in a bed surrounded by other moogles, captioned 'Your DPS gave me cancer"; very uncouth and perhaps distasteful but, comically executed. It wasn't directed at Soul or anyone in particular, it was just one of the guys sharing a variety of silly macros he had prepared and on standby. The only time I ever saw it used was in a private party and even then, jokingly.

As for using 'autistic' as an insult; it might be me who was guilty of using that phrase; as well as "'sperging out" - referring to Asperger Syndrome. But here's the kicker... I'm on the autistic spectrum, I feel this is my 'my word' to use. Much like people in the black or gay community can use certain words others cannot without it being deemed horrifically offensive. (For context I tend to use it when someone is obsessing over minutia or displaying their extreme focus on a topic; something Soul did often )



Soul, if you had a problem you should have probably just brought it up with the people who said it, or an officer. Dropping out the FC with nary a word, transferring to a different server, and the creating a thread seeking pity seems like a rather extreme over-reaction

[Bellsong]

Hmm, I honestly find it pretty problematic that OP is so adamant about words like "Cancer" and "Autistic", but when confronted with the notion that a word they're using like spices in a recipe can make people feel just as bad, they immediately get defensive, trying to absolve themselves of responsibility by arguing semantics and hyperbole.

But, the irony is really something to behold here at least.

[SerLuke]

You have to be bigger than them, name calling, hatred, bigotry, only beget more of the same, you have to be the one to not insult when insulted, to be kind or ignore those who say such awful things, going down to their level in the end makes you no different or better than them, be better show them a better way.

[Alucard135]

Hmm, I honestly find it pretty problematic that OP is so adamant about words like "Cancer" and "Autistic", but when confronted with the notion that a word they're using like spices in a recipe can make people feel just as bad, they immediately get defensive, trying to absolve themselves of responsibility by arguing semantics and hyperbole.

But, the irony is really something to behold here at least.

A sight to behold indeed.

[Crystal_Raven]

OP: Cancer and autistic are derogatory words!

Also OP:

This kind of comment I feel is absolutely a lack of understanding, ignorant and quite moronic in my opinion, that quite frankly wasn't the only problem. A few other people I can only claim to be 'morons' were piping up with, "lol" "I have to have that!" "That is awesome!" etc etc I think you get the jist oh actually I think there was one "wtf" but that didn't come from me.

Nice double standards. I find it rather difficult to take you seriously.

[Alucard135]

My Goal is achieved, thanks guys all your help has been appreciated. No matter how backward people feel I have gone about it, I literally have no mind to make any more comments.

Soul OUT!

So instead of directly telling your FC that something offended you. You decided to vanish from the data center, come here on the forums, start drama about it in hopes that your FC members would see it and realize that they have offended you?

-insert cancer metaphor here-

[Crystal_Raven]

My Goal is achieved, thanks guys all your help has been appreciated. No matter how backward people feel I have gone about it, I literally have no mind to make any more comments I felt it would have similarities to Brexit and I'll be here for years trying, 2 days not bad!

Soul OUT!

Hold on, so you dumped an FC, swapped data centers, instead of talking with your guild member about something you don't like to see and made a forum post about it.

That seems rather childish. And a pretty bad way of going about it.