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    Just a reminder as people are rifling through these posts and all, that there are a few points being made that are being missed, and other points that seem to be misinterpreted:

    1. OP isn't trying to say the Occupation and Nazi's are exactly the same. It's a comparison made simply for the sake of hoping you all will garner understanding, even if it is not exact. Because it's a hard thing to describe, and even harder when you have a personal connection to it.

    2. OP isn't trying to rip down Squeenix nor are they trying to get the outfit removed.

    3. OP is trying it inform you all of the history behind the outfit itself, so you can be conscientious about endorsing it.

    Because even if the elders that experienced the Occupation are not playing FFXIV, their children and more likely grandchildren, are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gailla View Post
    Just a reminder as people are rifling through these posts and all, that there are a few points being made that are being missed, and other points that seem to be misinterpreted:

    1. OP isn't trying to say the Occupation and Nazi's are exactly the same. It's a comparison made simply for the sake of hoping you all will garner understanding, even if it is not exact. Because it's a hard thing to describe, and even harder when you have a personal connection to it.

    2. OP isn't trying to rip down Squeenix nor are they trying to get the outfit removed.

    3. OP is trying it inform you all of the history behind the outfit itself, so you can be conscientious about endorsing it.

    Because even if the elders that experienced the Occupation are not playing FFXIV, their children and more likely grandchildren, are.
    Yeah, no. OP mention that she specifically made this thread because SE hasn't responded to the Tumblr/Twitter meltdown. So she wanted us to per her personal army. OP is not simply trying to "educate" us about the subject. The Tumblr and Twitter that she linked to is literally crying about it.

    Like I said, if you don’t have ANY idea whats happening with the clothes discourse, don’t freaking comment. Don’t try to excuse this decision to bring these clothes in the game. If you have no idea why its such a big deal, don’t fucking comment.

    That's a quote from Tumblr article. They don't care what you think. They're making these threads to justify their demands to remove the outfits. They're literally crying to have it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuriousOni View Post
    They don't care what you think. They're making these threads to justify their demands to remove the outfits. They're literally crying to have it done.
    If they're concerned about the outfit, there must be a reason for it. My reasons for supporting OP are my own. If you are mad at the Korean fanbase for being upset about it, especially without attempting to understand why they are upset, then you are insensitive.

    However with the context of the post above mine taken into account, I think it's clear that the Korean fanbase cares more for how the outfit is framed than whether or not it exists.
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    Last edited by Gailla; 05-29-2019 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gailla View Post
    If they're concerned about the outfit, there must be a reason for it. My reasons for supporting OP are my own. If you are mad at the Korean fanbase for being upset about it, especially without attempting to understand why they are upset, then you are insensitive.

    However with the context of the post above mine taken into account, I think it's clear that the Korean fanbase cares more for how the outfit is framed than whether or not it exists.
    It wasn't even an SE issue to begin with, but the Chinese team who named the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gailla View Post
    If they're concerned about the outfit, there must be a reason for it. My reasons for supporting OP are my own. If you are mad at the Korean fanbase for being upset about it, especially without attempting to understand why they are upset, then you are insensitive.
    Read the post above you. The issue was already addressed and apologized for. Mad props to Alcoholic_Beverage for the information provided.

    It's funny how none of that was included in OP. Not only that, the original outrage was for the name set by the Chinese group, which has since been changed. But that didn't stop OP from rehashing the issue but now about the outfit itself and not the name.

    There will be no end to this no matter what SE does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuriousOni View Post
    Read the post above you. The issue was already addressed and apologized for. Mad props to Alcoholic_Beverage for the information provided.

    It's funny how none of that was included in OP. Not only that, the original outrage was for the name set by the Chinese group, which has since been changed. But that didn't stop OP from rehashing the issue but now about the outfit itself and not the name.

    There will be no end to this no matter what SE does.
    It's 2019. People need to make up with a reason to be mad about something. In the future they'll just be mad for no reason at all.
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