The new Mogstation items represent a painful period for Koreans, please read.

[Paladinleeds]

Honestly, I don't know enough about it to be able to comment on this in detail, but I have however been through periods of being seen as inferior due to disability. Not on anywhere near the level of the Japanese occupation of Korea, but enough for me to be able to empathise. I didn't find them all that attractive as is (the dye on them just doesn't resonate well with me), but given this, one thing I would like to add is that these were originally on the Chinese cash shop (and were there for about a year or so before coming to us). But, this then begs the question, were the Chinese on the side of the Japanese or the Koreans? If the former, it probably explains why they were OK with it, if the latter, then it's an even more bamboozling decision.

[FuriousOni]

Keep politics outside of the game please. And why is this politics instead of "History"? (Quotations because I don't know Japanese/Korean History and you really shouldn't expect foreigners to take sides.)

You're demanding that a Japanese gaming company release a statement and remove an item because of your "Historical Facts that absolutely happened 80 years ago per Koreans". If a statement IS released and the outfits ARE removed, that would basically mean SE is acknowledging that these "Historical Facts that absolutely happened 80 years ago per Koreans" actually happened and wholeheartedly apologize on behalf of the Japanese Government, who you've said refuses to acknowledge any of it happened. You're demanding a gaming company make a political statement.

Leave the politics to politicians and let the rest of the world enjoy pretty outfits.

[Crushnight]

I'd like to just say i think these outfits are fine and should stay in the game, my reasoning, is simple take Hitler he is actively mocked as a person worldwide in media countless parodies about him yet his actions and consequences are not mocked anywhere near that level, why because majority of people understand that his actions were horrific and should not be repeated they deserve the respect for the situation they are in. How do these clothes fit in, well do they mock the actions taken within the occupation period or are they just a symbol of it, i believe its the latter(at worst) and i firmly believe no one at SE had intentions for these clothes to be offensive, (about to generalize here) i think its time stop taking everything as a potential offense or nothing would be allowed ever in anything because accept it or not something/someone has suffered for you to do anything in your daily life at this stage in history, no country is innocent, its time to associate the actions with actions not actions with data.

sorry wall over

[Shougun]

Were the Chinese on the side of the Japanese or the Koreans? If the former, it probably explains why they were OK with it, if the latter, then it's an even more bamboozling decision.

Not on the Japanese side, at all. Korean's grievances in some ways mirror the issues Chinese have with Japan. In my handful (~5 Koreans, ~10 Chinese, both born and raised in those countries) that the Chinese are even more aggressive/against Japan (as people) than Koreans (none that I met had anything against a Japanese person, but the historical event was still very personal). At least from my /small/ handful of experiences and discussions, and watching some media from both. Chinese government might be part of that as it seems they're more active in trying to keep the wound fresh.

To note I spoke to mostly 25+ year olds, kids tend to drop the potency of past transgressions (so I imagine both Chinese and Korean children will have lesser cares than their parents, and so on and so forth, like kids everywhere in the world).

Thanks.

Np .

[Paladinleeds]

Not on the Japanese side, at all. Korean's grievances in some ways mirror the issues Chinese have with Japan. In my handful (~5 Koreans, ~10 Chinese, both born and raised in those countries) that the Chinese are even more aggressive/against Japan (as people) than Koreans (none that I met had anything against a Japanese person, but the historical even was still very personal). At least from my /small/ handful of experiences and discussions, and watching some media from both.

To note I spoke to mostly 25+ year olds, kids tend to drop the potency of past transgressions (so I imagine both Chinese and Korean children will have lesser cares than their parents, and so on and so forth, like everywhere in the world).

Thanks. Then that makes me wonder why the Chinese publishers of the game asked for this item to even be developed in the first place for the Chinese cash shop. The cat's outta the bag now unfortunately, so I highly doubt we can get it removed (and tbh, I would be against that just on the basis of it's out now and time has been taken to develop it. Adapt it maybe, but not remove), but given they were on the Korean's side, it just seems bamboozling that they'd ask for them to be developed.

EDIT: Just seen your edit... that could explain it.

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

This is just a style of clothing right? It seems less Nazi uniform and more being offended by lederhosen.

[ElazulHP]

I can see how this would be considered culturally offensive if what you're saying is true. I don't know much about it honestly. I'd be burning all my Square merchandise if FFXIV added a Nazi uniform for sure though. So I can see where you're coming from. I just don't think SE is going to address your concerns because $$$. Unless angry backlash exceeds profits to be gained they'll do nothing.

[Awful]

It's always more trollish behavior to me when people get offended for someone being offended. do you know the facts here? I mean if you have the facts lets here them.

I mean I'm not being trollish but when the forums are filled with people being offended by literally everything under the sun its hard to take things seriously, if it is serious good, but they don't have the facts nor do I. Am I being constructive on this thread? Lmao no not at all but what I'm saying is going after a company for an outfit that literally has no tie ins to how Korean people were treated to me there's no correlation unless I see the facts beforehand.

It's okay to spread information but it has to be 100% factual not just an educated guess and to attack a company saying this is offensive when no one knows just my 2 cents.

[Kurando]

But, this then begs the question, were the Chinese on the side of the Japanese or the Koreans? If the former, it probably explains why they were OK with it, if the latter, then it's an even more bamboozling decision.

China had their own internal issues going on and parts of the country was invaded and turned in to a puppet state (Manchuria) by Japan so definitely had their fair share of grievances just like Korea did. But regardless, the outfit isn't intended to stir emotions but bring us something to ideally enjoy in game... though some people don't seem to see it that way.

[Dustytome]

It would be more in line with a prisoner uniform than a military uniform from the sounds of it. I'm having trouble finding anything online that shows these specific outfits though in relation to the occupation. Maybe I'm just not getting the right keywords... judging from all the men/women in japanese school girl outfits littering the results I'd say that's likely. This is going to be a weird week of youtube ads.